Products with Fillers or Masking Capablities?

rzatch said:
Depending on what you are topping the glaze with you may in fact be cleaning off the glaze you just put on. Or the chemical make up of the wax may in fact just blend with the glaze weaking both as far as durability or hiding effect.
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I haven't seen this as a factor. I've done many cars with glazes and sealant and the same number with just sealant. I can tell the difference in the finish!
 
The only glaze that I have ever used is Prima Amigo, and it is a wonderful product in my opinion. It is a paint cleaner, polish and glaze all in one, and you can go right to your LSP after application without durability issues that you get when using some glazes.
 
Bilt Hamber's Auto-Balm has a (well-earned) reputation as one of the best filling products around - and since it is an actual LSP (not just a glaze), it does last quite a while. Check out this post over at Detailing World - should be easy enough to tell which side is which :):

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^I have to admit, that looks pretty good just for some fillers. Looking at some of the other pics in that thread, you can see in some sun shots that it is just masking the damage though. For certain vehicles, the fillers look like they have a place in this world.
 
i've used blackfire gloss enhancing polish many times and really like it. i usually use blackfire wet diamond all finish paint protection over with no problems. recently used the bfgep with a top coat of DP Poli-Coat with no problem also. bfgep has not cut to it, but cleans and fills very well.
 
Beemerboy said:
I haven't seen this as a factor. I've done many cars with glazes and sealant and the same number with just sealant. I can tell the difference in the finish!
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I'm sure you can tell a difference the sealant alone either doesn't have or doesn't have as much filler in it. What i was referring to is if you were to go over the glaze with a wax containing a cleaner. And some waxes with high petroleum content can blend with the glaze.
 
umi000 said:
Bilt Hamber's Auto-Balm has a (well-earned) reputation as one of the best filling products around - and since it is an actual LSP (not just a glaze), it does last quite a while. Check out this post over at Detailing World - should be easy enough to tell which side is which :):

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I have to say that is pretty impressive. It filled in a lot more than I thought a glaze could.

I think some miss the point of glaze. If you have a customer who wants a "wash & wax" job and no correction you could help make the finished result look much better than just using some wax or sealant. The other spot where it would be great is when you get a car in where a hack detailer has left a mess and burned through spots in the clear. It's hard to say what's left and I wouldn't feel comfortable doing any heavy correction. Maybe only light correction would be safe or maybe no correction at all.
 
Very true Rocket sometimes you have to error on the side of caution. As I said before they do have thier place.
 
tdekany said:
I have long ago stopped recommending glazes to fill.

Menzerna or Meg's D300 will do a much better job.
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Yes, if you have enough paint left or there are only swirls, you can correct and those are great polishes/compounds for doing it. But there are times....
 
What about Megs#80? Anyone still use it? I have a whole 32oz that I haven't touched yet. Might as well use it up.
 
I had very satisfactory results on light colors using Poorboy's White Diamond followed by Ultima Paint Guard Plus. My car is white pearl and the combination worked quite well and held up as it did on others.
 
I am going to have to order some samples of Black Hole and White Diamond. Would be a nice touch on hoods, etc of cars you are just giving wash/clayings to.
 
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