products to use by hand instead of machine

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4pbears

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i am looking for suggestions for polishes, glazes, waxes etc that work good when applied by hand. i will be getting a pc 7424, but thats a couple of months away.





Thanks.





Dave.
 
Polish

XMT line

Megs Scratch X



Glaze

ClearKote Vanilla Moose Wax Hand Glaze



Wax

Pretty much any wax can be applied by hand. If you tell me the color of your car I can give you some recommendations.
 
For polish I say just wait until you get the PC.



Vanilla Moose, Danase wet Glaze, 3M Imperial Hand Glaze



P21S is a great wax in my opinion.
 
Danase said:
For polish I say just wait until you get the PC.



Vanilla Moose, Danase wet Glaze, 3M Imperial Hand Glaze



P21S is a great wax in my opinion.
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could not agree more with the hold on polishes. it's tedious and strenuous enough to polish a car with a pc let alone by hand. i also second the suggested products above. p21s is probably the most foolproof wax ive ever used. wipe on wipe off no dry time required top notch look. wet glaze is very appropriately named as well.
 
1Z polishes work quite well by hand, and are the only products I'd recommend for that type of application. I'd top with Collinite wax, probably the 845 IW if you want ease of application (no harder than P21S IMO).



Yeah, I like VM but it doesn't correct like the 1Z can and isn't any easier to use than some of their very mild products. Scratch-X is *NOT* my idea of an effective, user-friendly product (OK, it *can* be effective in the right hands).



3M IHG is just "makeup" and it's not all that user-friendly IMO. For something like that I'd rather use a Meguiar's "pure polish" but I'd still use a 1Z product instead.



[Note to self: try that Danase Speed Glaze that BlkZ28Conv sent!]



And yeah, I have all the above on the shelf; I'm speaking from first-hand experience, often direct, side-by-side comparison ;) Friends/in-laws without PCs are very happy with the 1Z/Collinite approach, especially the user-friendliness and nice steep learning curve (basically foolproof first time, every time).



Gee, the above sounds mighty opinionated, borderline ranting...really flaming the previous poster's suggerstions :o Hope I didn't sound too much like a [jerk].
 
Accumulator said:
1Z polishes work quite well by hand, and are the only products I'd recommend for that type of application. I'd top with Collinite wax, probably the 845 IW if you want ease of application (no harder than P21S IMO).



Yeah, I like VM but it doesn't correct like the 1Z can and isn't any easier to use than some of their very mild products. Scratch-X is *NOT* my idea of an effective, user-friendly product (OK, it *can* be effective in the right hands).



3M IHG is just "makeup" and it's not all that user-friendly IMO. For something like that I'd rather use a Meguiar's "pure polish" but I'd still use a 1Z product instead.



[Note to self: try that Danase Speed Glaze that BlkZ28Conv sent!]



And yeah, I have all the above on the shelf; I'm speaking from first-hand experience, often direct, side-by-side comparison ;) Friends/in-laws without PCs are very happy with the 1Z/Collinite approach, especially the user-friendliness and nice steep learning curve (basically foolproof first time, every time).



Gee, the above sounds mighty opinionated, borderline ranting...really flaming the previous poster's suggerstions :o Hope I didn't sound too much like a [jerk].
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What kind of wax would you use in a lite colored cars, like for e.g. Desert Sand Mica.? Opinion please!!!:dance
 
i prefer p21s over 845 i give 845 the edge on longevity, that's about it. the look definitely goes to p21s ime with both products.
 
I agree, I wouldnt waste my time polishing by hand. But I wanted to answer your question.



For those recommending P21S wax, I heard it has no durability because it has bees wax in it? I havent used it, so I cant say for myself. But I use DP Max Wax, Pinnacle Liquid Souveran, Sig. Series II, and Souveran Paste. Talk about ease of use and great results!
 
03gtmustang said:
For those recommending P21S wax, I heard it has no durability because it has bees wax in it? I havent used it, so I cant say for myself. But I use DP Max Wax, Pinnacle Liquid Souveran, Sig. Series II, and Souveran Paste. Talk about ease of use and great results!
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I find P21S to be just as durable as most waxes, and def. more durable than Souveran. Here in the southern climate carnauba waxes really have a hard time of holding up, especially when ambient temps reach upper 90's. I can't even begin to imagine how bad surface temps are when sitting in the direct sunlight.
 
JDookie said:
I find P21S to be just as durable as most waxes, and def. more durable than Souveran. Here in the southern climate carnauba waxes really have a hard time of holding up, especially when ambient temps reach upper 90's. I can't even begin to imagine how bad surface temps are when sitting in the direct sunlight.
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Being more durable then Souveran Paste I can understand. But what about Max Wax, Liquid Souveran, and Sig. Series II?
 
mikelea4ever said:
What kind of wax would you use in a lite colored cars, like for e.g. Desert Sand Mica.?
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I'd just use Collinite. *I* would probably use 476S paste but most people like the look of 845 better and yeah, it's more user-friendly.



Noting that I'm the one person here who wasn't impressed with P21S :o if you let it set up/dry before you buff it off (instead of using the W-O-W-O method as per the instructions) you'll probably get decent durability. Nothing like the Collinite though, and it doesn't do the "self-cleaning"/extreme beading thing the way Collinite does either. Guess I'm in the minority, but I only appreciate the better appearance of "beauty LSPs" on my most pampered vehicles (and I can be as extreme as anybody about those ;) ); for most anything that I really *use as a driver* I lean towards the marginally less attractive Collinite because I place higher value on its other characteristics.



And with so much of the appearance being dependent on the prep, if doing it by hand I'd be especially wary of over-emphasizing minor LSP appearance benefits ;) I genuinely don't see somebody (let alone with the color in question) saying "gee, that woulda looked nice had I only used something better than Collinite". Sheesh, you'd think I work for them the way I carry on about their waxes...
 
zingyginger said:
how do you layer collinite? or do you just wait until the beading stops, use p21s taw to remove and start over?
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I usually don't start over until I have some marring to address; I just clean things with Sonus green clay and reapply my LSP. After this last winter, I used Sonus green on the Blazer and just reapplied some more 476S. On my wife's A8 it'd been *ages* (and I do mean years) since I did anything except add more wax, so I did give hers a once-over with some 1Z WPS...but that's not something I do even once a year in most cases.



With the Collinite, I just add another application at least 24 hours after the last one. I know some people question whether this layers as opposed to just dissolving/mixing with the previous application, but everything I've observed tells me it layers. I got about four layers on the Blazer last year, and IMO there's no way it could've lasted as long as it did (~8 months including winter, still slick and beading when I clayed/rewaxed it) had it not layered.



I *never* wait until beading completely stops; I try to stay ahead of the curve in that regard.
 
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