Hello, Autopians!
I discovered this wonderful site after purchasing a black 2006 Ford Fusion. Since this discovery, I have become obsessed with detailing. Anyways, I was curious as to whether or not RMG could be used between the application of PRIME and AJ. I did email Jeff about this and will include his response below. However, I wanted to get your insight. My process will/could be:
1. Hand Wash and Dry
2. Clay
3. Hand Wash and Dry
4. Polish with Menzerna FPII via PC7424
5. Polish with Menzerna IP (If FPII not strong enough) via PC7424
6. Polish with Menzerna FPII (If IP polish is necessary) via PC7424
7. Apply Prime with PC7424
8. Apply RMG with PC7424
9. Apply AJ with PC7424 (2 or 3 layers)
I have yet to decide on the pad manufacturer. However, I will probably go with a combination of 4" and 6.5" LC light polishing and finish pads unless otherwise recommended. What are your thoughts on this as a whole?
Here is the email that I received from Jeff:
Thank you for contacting JEFFS Werkstatt. I appreciate your interest in our products.
First, we do not test the majority of competing products for compatibility with our own system so please take the following as my thoughts, conjecture, and suggestions only.
True glazes are a peculiarity in the detailing world in that unlike most other products, like polishes, waxes, or protectants, they are not designed to have a long-lasting effect. There is no permanence inherent in their ingredients. Typically only natural wax products--like Carnauba Jett--would be applied over a glaze to attempt to "lock" in the glaze's beautifying oils. But, a sealant could achieve a similar effect, in theory anyway!
Red Moose Machine Glaze appears to be an oil based product, and assuming it does not have extensive petroleum distillates or abrasives, it should work fine over Prime. However, applying it before Acrylic Jett is going to affect Jett's long term durability. This is not to say it can't produce beautiful results, just be aware that you will not be getting the highest performance from A.Jett in this usage because--as you suspected--the acrylic polymers in Jett will not be in full contact with the paint or other compatible polymers to facilitate optimal bonding. But, you still may get an acceptable lifespan, never-the-less.
Going out on a limb here, an alternative application order might be Prime, Acrylic Jett, and then RMG. In this way, A.Jett can bond to the base layer of Prime and maximize its own curing/protection/longevity/gloss while RMG will be able to add its own look to the paint as a temporary topper. The impermanence and oily nature of the glaze, then, would not be an issue. This is of course assuming RMG does not use overly harsh cleaning components. The acrylics in Prime/Jett are quite durable and will withstand some amount.... just apply RMG as gently as possible
In any case, I would definately let any Prime/Jett layers cure for at least a few hours (if not 24) before applying RMG for better results.
Detailing should be fun, and I think part of that fun is experimentation. Sometimes a combination works, and sometimes it fails... but it rarely hurts to try! If you do experiment, let me know how it works out... we have had questions specifically about RMG from other customers as well.
Happy Detailing,
Jeff Brandt
President and Product Development Junkie
JEFFS Werkstatt
Thank you for your input.
I discovered this wonderful site after purchasing a black 2006 Ford Fusion. Since this discovery, I have become obsessed with detailing. Anyways, I was curious as to whether or not RMG could be used between the application of PRIME and AJ. I did email Jeff about this and will include his response below. However, I wanted to get your insight. My process will/could be:
1. Hand Wash and Dry
2. Clay
3. Hand Wash and Dry
4. Polish with Menzerna FPII via PC7424
5. Polish with Menzerna IP (If FPII not strong enough) via PC7424
6. Polish with Menzerna FPII (If IP polish is necessary) via PC7424
7. Apply Prime with PC7424
8. Apply RMG with PC7424
9. Apply AJ with PC7424 (2 or 3 layers)
I have yet to decide on the pad manufacturer. However, I will probably go with a combination of 4" and 6.5" LC light polishing and finish pads unless otherwise recommended. What are your thoughts on this as a whole?
Here is the email that I received from Jeff:
Thank you for contacting JEFFS Werkstatt. I appreciate your interest in our products.
First, we do not test the majority of competing products for compatibility with our own system so please take the following as my thoughts, conjecture, and suggestions only.
True glazes are a peculiarity in the detailing world in that unlike most other products, like polishes, waxes, or protectants, they are not designed to have a long-lasting effect. There is no permanence inherent in their ingredients. Typically only natural wax products--like Carnauba Jett--would be applied over a glaze to attempt to "lock" in the glaze's beautifying oils. But, a sealant could achieve a similar effect, in theory anyway!
Red Moose Machine Glaze appears to be an oil based product, and assuming it does not have extensive petroleum distillates or abrasives, it should work fine over Prime. However, applying it before Acrylic Jett is going to affect Jett's long term durability. This is not to say it can't produce beautiful results, just be aware that you will not be getting the highest performance from A.Jett in this usage because--as you suspected--the acrylic polymers in Jett will not be in full contact with the paint or other compatible polymers to facilitate optimal bonding. But, you still may get an acceptable lifespan, never-the-less.
Going out on a limb here, an alternative application order might be Prime, Acrylic Jett, and then RMG. In this way, A.Jett can bond to the base layer of Prime and maximize its own curing/protection/longevity/gloss while RMG will be able to add its own look to the paint as a temporary topper. The impermanence and oily nature of the glaze, then, would not be an issue. This is of course assuming RMG does not use overly harsh cleaning components. The acrylics in Prime/Jett are quite durable and will withstand some amount.... just apply RMG as gently as possible
In any case, I would definately let any Prime/Jett layers cure for at least a few hours (if not 24) before applying RMG for better results.
Detailing should be fun, and I think part of that fun is experimentation. Sometimes a combination works, and sometimes it fails... but it rarely hurts to try! If you do experiment, let me know how it works out... we have had questions specifically about RMG from other customers as well.
Happy Detailing,
Jeff Brandt
President and Product Development Junkie
JEFFS Werkstatt
Thank you for your input.
