Porsche 997 C4S - Detailed
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Josh: With the exhaust, I start by soaking it in P21s Wheel Cleaner to try and see what is going to be a big pain. Once the car is dry, I rip apart a small piece of steel wool and apply some ZPC to it. Make sure you wear gloves becuase the friction causes the polish to turn black and get under your nails.
I work the polish in (front to back), polishing as much as I can see fit and allow to haze up. I usually mist the surface with some Z8, then use an old MF to buff it to a bright shine. This setup works great for all chrome.
A member here, mgm121499, tipped me off on this method, only he used the Z-PC with steel wool, then quickly moved to a Flitz ball. He then applied Z5 Pro over it, let haze, misted with Z8, then finally wiped away...Wow. You have to try it to believe it.
I work the polish in (front to back), polishing as much as I can see fit and allow to haze up. I usually mist the surface with some Z8, then use an old MF to buff it to a bright shine. This setup works great for all chrome.
A member here, mgm121499, tipped me off on this method, only he used the Z-PC with steel wool, then quickly moved to a Flitz ball. He then applied Z5 Pro over it, let haze, misted with Z8, then finally wiped away...Wow. You have to try it to believe it.
Thomas Dekany
New member
Awesome work as always Sean.
FlatFourRS
New member
Great work as always. I havent been on the forum since you bought your G35. Just noticed the name change. Cool Sh*t! I still miss that clean a$$ GSR.
Willie
Willie
**9/28/06 Update**
I was given permission by Eric Dunn at Lake Country to “let the cat out of the bag�. For this detail (and many others) in the past month or so, I used the new Lake Country CCS Pads ( http://lakecountrymfg.com/featured.html). Thanks to Eric at Lake, he gave me a couple samples to test out prior to its official introduction. To date, they have only been used in the OEM market.
So far, I could estimate the use of these pads on at least 10 different vehicles. They come in various shapes and sizes, but I was using the 6� pads in 1� thickness. The cut levels I had were the Orange Cutting, White Polishing, and Black Finishing. I used them with a 5� Lake Country flexible backing plate. These combos were used on the rotary and PC at various speeds (mentioned in threads).
Here are the main things I took from these pads…
Pros
- Small diameter allowed for easy maneuvering
- Flat pad design allowed to equal contact, easy control, and complete polish coverage
- Dimples allowed for storage of extra polish. Basically, you’d buff your 3’x3’ area, for instance, and once the polish/compound went to translucent, but you still had a few defects remaining, you’d turn off the machine, and press the pad against the surface in various locations to “re-bead� the panel, and then continue buffing.
- Dimples spread out heat from friction allowing a more effective buffing pass. I find that with standard flat foam pads, it makes the surface so hot on the rotary after 5 passes with compound that I have to move to the next panel, wait for the initial to cool, then come back, ultimately wasting time. These dimples act like air cooling pockets keeping the surface only very warm, at max. I was able to do my standard 5 overlapping passes with Hi-Temp Extreme Cut, then switch off, “re-bead� with the CCS technology, and continue buffing until it was ready for a final polish.
- Lake Country pads, in my experiences are always of the highest quality. After 10+ vehicles, none of my pads have any nicks or cuts and the backing Velcro works great. For reference, I machine wash/dry my pads after each use.
Cons
- Honestly, I was hard pressed to find a con in comparison to other pads I’ve used (Edge, Meguiars, Lake Country Concaved), however, I wish I had the thicker version (1.5� I believe) to use with the PC. The PC, as any regular user knows, flattens out pads a bit and that little extra cushion would’ve been nice.
Just to end off, I like these pads so much that my standard Lake Country 7.5� Concaved series have been stowed away, probably for good. I don’t even bring them on the road with me anymore. The success rate with these has surpassed anything I’ve used and I will continue using them.
If you have any further questions, please feel free. Thanks.
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I was given permission by Eric Dunn at Lake Country to “let the cat out of the bag�. For this detail (and many others) in the past month or so, I used the new Lake Country CCS Pads ( http://lakecountrymfg.com/featured.html). Thanks to Eric at Lake, he gave me a couple samples to test out prior to its official introduction. To date, they have only been used in the OEM market.
So far, I could estimate the use of these pads on at least 10 different vehicles. They come in various shapes and sizes, but I was using the 6� pads in 1� thickness. The cut levels I had were the Orange Cutting, White Polishing, and Black Finishing. I used them with a 5� Lake Country flexible backing plate. These combos were used on the rotary and PC at various speeds (mentioned in threads).
Here are the main things I took from these pads…
Pros
- Small diameter allowed for easy maneuvering
- Flat pad design allowed to equal contact, easy control, and complete polish coverage
- Dimples allowed for storage of extra polish. Basically, you’d buff your 3’x3’ area, for instance, and once the polish/compound went to translucent, but you still had a few defects remaining, you’d turn off the machine, and press the pad against the surface in various locations to “re-bead� the panel, and then continue buffing.
- Dimples spread out heat from friction allowing a more effective buffing pass. I find that with standard flat foam pads, it makes the surface so hot on the rotary after 5 passes with compound that I have to move to the next panel, wait for the initial to cool, then come back, ultimately wasting time. These dimples act like air cooling pockets keeping the surface only very warm, at max. I was able to do my standard 5 overlapping passes with Hi-Temp Extreme Cut, then switch off, “re-bead� with the CCS technology, and continue buffing until it was ready for a final polish.
- Lake Country pads, in my experiences are always of the highest quality. After 10+ vehicles, none of my pads have any nicks or cuts and the backing Velcro works great. For reference, I machine wash/dry my pads after each use.
Cons
- Honestly, I was hard pressed to find a con in comparison to other pads I’ve used (Edge, Meguiars, Lake Country Concaved), however, I wish I had the thicker version (1.5� I believe) to use with the PC. The PC, as any regular user knows, flattens out pads a bit and that little extra cushion would’ve been nice.
Just to end off, I like these pads so much that my standard Lake Country 7.5� Concaved series have been stowed away, probably for good. I don’t even bring them on the road with me anymore. The success rate with these has surpassed anything I’ve used and I will continue using them.
If you have any further questions, please feel free. Thanks.
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Deanski
STUTTGART'S FINEST
Oh boy, time for me to grab a few of these pads! Thanks Sean for the review!
For the PC, that giant green pad worked well, a bit tuff to get it going at first, but once it was fully wet with polish, it did a nice job and being thick you could add a bit more downward pressure w/o bottoming out.
These pads look really nice. How are the blue finish pads? How's the black finessing ones? Always hard to find a good finish pad that works well w/o micro-marring or drag
Now if I could find time....
Thanks again for the writeup!! :2thumbs:
Regards,
Deanski
For the PC, that giant green pad worked well, a bit tuff to get it going at first, but once it was fully wet with polish, it did a nice job and being thick you could add a bit more downward pressure w/o bottoming out.
These pads look really nice. How are the blue finish pads? How's the black finessing ones? Always hard to find a good finish pad that works well w/o micro-marring or drag
Now if I could find time....
Thanks again for the writeup!! :2thumbs:
Regards,
Deanski
Sean, Thanks for the review on the CCS pads.
I find myself using the yellow 7.5" LC VC pads for most of my "heavy" work. White of the same for moderate work and the Green P2s for 106ff. All of this is with a rotary.
I am thinking of going with yellow, orange, white of the CCS pads. Which of the CCS pads will equal the Green P2 pad in cut?
Also are the CCS pads less apt to get "gummed up" with polish? Do you find yourself changing pads less often during a detail?
TIA!
I find myself using the yellow 7.5" LC VC pads for most of my "heavy" work. White of the same for moderate work and the Green P2s for 106ff. All of this is with a rotary.
I am thinking of going with yellow, orange, white of the CCS pads. Which of the CCS pads will equal the Green P2 pad in cut?
Also are the CCS pads less apt to get "gummed up" with polish? Do you find yourself changing pads less often during a detail?
TIA!
SilverLexus
Super Enthusiast
Is there a way to buy the CCS pads now?
I have not seen any yet on the retailer sites. Bryan and I were thinking of purchasing a few.
I have not seen any yet on the retailer sites. Bryan and I were thinking of purchasing a few.
Dino: Only have the black, white, and orange...love all three 
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evenflow: I used the Liquid. The front wheels had some baked on gunk, but paired with my PowerPuff, it came out wonderfully. I love the P21s Wheel Cleaner...very very safe yet very effective.
Bryan: I am not familiar with the Green P2 pad, but I'm sure Eric Dunn and LC could help you better with that question.
I like having the trilogy of pads, meaning 1 cutting, 1 polishing, 1 finishing. For *my* feats, orange, white, and black fit the bill. I just ordered a yellow to try to see how it fairs but I like the density of the orange foam a lot.
My pads very very rarely gum up now. I might brush clean them twice the whole compounding stage on the rotary (1 pad). For polishing/finishing with the PC, I replace them twice for the reasons stated initially, mine being too thin for PC use. I ordered a couple white PC thickness CCS recently too so I'm sure they should help.
Lee: Eric Dunn could help you. I was able to purchase through him.
.evenflow: I used the Liquid. The front wheels had some baked on gunk, but paired with my PowerPuff, it came out wonderfully. I love the P21s Wheel Cleaner...very very safe yet very effective.
Bryan: I am not familiar with the Green P2 pad, but I'm sure Eric Dunn and LC could help you better with that question.
I like having the trilogy of pads, meaning 1 cutting, 1 polishing, 1 finishing. For *my* feats, orange, white, and black fit the bill. I just ordered a yellow to try to see how it fairs but I like the density of the orange foam a lot.
My pads very very rarely gum up now. I might brush clean them twice the whole compounding stage on the rotary (1 pad). For polishing/finishing with the PC, I replace them twice for the reasons stated initially, mine being too thin for PC use. I ordered a couple white PC thickness CCS recently too so I'm sure they should help.
Lee: Eric Dunn could help you. I was able to purchase through him.
klnyc
Deep scratch guy.
Good review, Sean. I might order me some of those pad too :chuckle:
imported_becks
New member
G35stilez said:
I contacted Eric before you made all this public knowledge and was told I could buy them when they went on sale to the public in Nov
