Poorboys are they a Re-Seller?

BlueZero said:
It might be worth saying on the subject too that just because products are private label from a manufacture that they are the exact same. They vendor may have requested a custom blend of an existing chemical.
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Absolutely, a private label product could be heavily customized....or not. BTW, I'm just regurgitating some original CG's scuttlebutt from here, I just did a quick google and wasn't able to establish any corporate relationship between CG's and Warner.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Well, I'm not sure that's really accurate. I haven't researched this as much as some of you, but IIRC when CG's first hit the scene, it was as more of a lower-level marketing arm for their parent, Warner Chemical. While a Warner private label order might be for a tank truck full, CG's did say, a 10 case qty. At some point, they decided they could/would compete with their customers, which I still don't understand.
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It's a money issue... I work for a large company that private labels a lot of product, and our branded products sell right up against private label product that comes off the same line but to slightly different specs. We make money, they make money, everyone's happy.



For the large part, our buyers are brand-conscious and our PL buyers are price-conscious... oddly enough, CG's situation is the opposite relationship.
 
ninjalogan said:
Just wait for the first sweaty, wife beater wearing, beer-bellied, over the road truck driver to pull up and say, "I heered there was some polishin goin' on round here. You da lizard with da happy endins?"



:eek:
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Kind of like that car wash scene in Dodgeball where the kid was washing the tires on a huge truck while the owner (a huge man) watched him and leered.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Absolutely, a private label product could be heavily customized....or not. BTW, I'm just regurgitating some original CG's scuttlebutt from here, I just did a quick google and wasn't able to establish any corporate relationship between CG's and Warner.
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I think that is what is happening with some of the resellers. CG's does do custom blending so what may start as a CG product is tweaked and has added value. Sort of like a Lingenfelter Corvette. Underneath it all, it is still a Corvette but performs well beyond the level a factory one does.
 
Scottwax said:
I think that is what is happening with some of the resellers. CG's does do custom blending so what may start as a CG product is tweaked and has added value. Sort of like a Lingenfelter Corvette. Underneath it all, it is still a Corvette but performs well beyond the level a factory one does.
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Very well put guys....and VERY true!
 
Danase said:
Yeah,

We took the stand to openly admit CG makes MOST of our products. I have enough crap going on and I don't have time to make up stories about my chemical plant that doesn't exist. LOL I figure you are all smart enough you would figure out I am not making products in my bath tub. ;)
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My favorite is Adams :) I don't know if you guys have watched his DVD's but you get some pretty interesting stories. (I am Adams is CG because I dont want to open up that can of worms :dig ) but he says he started out mixing his own polishes. :D What I find really hard to believe is that he doesn't put patents on anything because he changes his formula's every year. :p
 
Chemical guys owns Warner from day 1, they carry everything Warner has but also they have branched out and sell much more. They just leave the Warner name up for marketing reasons because Warner was in business long before CG, just call them and ask. CG=Parent company Warner=lil arm. In my opinion it's good to see all the new companies and new formulations avoid rebottling, look at Ultima, Polycharger, Zaino, Optimum, Meguiars. There is some cool stuff going on in the detailing industry right now, am I wrong? Nothing wrong with rebottling, but the cool stuff going on right now is more special if you ask me. I love these spray sealants that have durabilty, it's getting easier and easier to detail a car and have great results. Hopefully someday one of these spray sealants will actually repair swirl marks and leave a gloss.
 
I think the simple truth of many of these recurring threads is that the posters want to get a given product at the lowest price. If they can buy it at the original production cost, plus a margin to the manufacturer that's swell. But if that same product then has additional costs added on to it (from additional marketing, shipping, etc.), plus an additional margin, the product isn't nearly as good of a value. It seems that many of the questions revolve around whether or not any additional benefits or ingredients are added to the original product to justify their subsequent price increase under another manufacturer's name.



I'm not scared to admit I'd buy all my products from the source if I could get the information on the original source.
 
felthove said:
I think the simple truth of many of these recurring threads is that the posters want to get a given product at the lowest price. If they can buy it at the original production cost, plus a margin to the manufacturer that's swell. But if that same product then has additional costs added on to it (from additional marketing, shipping, etc.), plus an additional margin, the product isn't nearly as good of a value. It seems that many of the questions revolve around whether or not any additional benefits or ingredients are added to the original product to justify their subsequent price increase under another manufacturer's name.



I'm not scared to admit I'd buy all my products from the source if I could get the information on the original source.
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I agree 100%, I much rather get it from the source at a better price. +1 for you.:heelclick
 
Hmmmmmm. Was just thinking how P&B Manufacturing fits into this equasion of relabeling, parent compamy or little arm or whatever..........
 
felthove said:
I think the simple truth of many of these recurring threads is that the posters want to get a given product at the lowest price. If they can buy it at the original production cost, plus a margin to the manufacturer that's swell. But if that same product then has additional costs added on to it (from additional marketing, shipping, etc.), plus an additional margin, the product isn't nearly as good of a value. It seems that many of the questions revolve around whether or not any additional benefits or ingredients are added to the original product to justify their subsequent price increase under another manufacturer's name.



I'm not scared to admit I'd buy all my products from the source if I could get the information on the original source.
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Best advice is to try the product and if it meets your needs and is cheaper then you've found yourself a product. Would it work better if you knew it was the same as something else?



:waxing:
 
Doesnt matter if they are, does it. PB's has lost ground with their products, and are being overtaken by even stuff found at autozone.
 
Do your research Chemical Guys is where they buy and Re-label From. Some of the

Re-seller tell you but SOME Do not !!,
 
When I go shopping and I want to buy a whipped cream spray, I always look at the manufacturer (not the distributor) in the fine print. Whan say, a Hochland cream costs 380 Forint, and the cheapo Tesco cream is only 150 Forint - yet it is from the same manufacturer - I think it is more than obvious which I'm going to buy and I don't care about the label.



That's why it is essential to know more...
 
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