Polish prep for csl/exo

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hawaiidude

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Ok so it seems that essence might not play well with csl/exo.

If I need a solid polish to prep paint before csl/exo, what are some recommendations? Thanks!
 
hawaiidude said:
last time I used HD cut and polish I had a hell of a time buffing it off. Tell me what I did wrong?
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Are you saying both products dried and was difficult to remove? If so how there could be a whole host of reasons such as how many passes did you make? How warm was the ambient air temperature? Where you in direct sun light? How often did you change pads? What speed setting did you use... Etc.

If you want to try a new compound/ polish take a look at Jescar’s product line. I was super impressed by it and used it prior to coating my own DD with CLS/EXO.
 
I always found polish and cut to be super easy to work with and wipe away. Had a really long work time, seems like you’d have to work it a loooong time to make it hard to wipe away.
 
HD products have always been very user friendly in my experience. I think looking at your process some people on here could help resolve the issue. Cut is actually designed for rotary use so with a DA as someone mentioned you should have a nice long work time and HD products are known for their ease of removal. Don`t get me wrong just because Cut was designed for a rotary it works fine with a DA.
 
hawaiidude said:
last time I used HD cut and polish I had a hell of a time buffing it off. Tell me what I did wrong?
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I personally have not had success with HD Polish. I ended up giving it away.

If you are looking for alternative polishes, I have had success with Sonax polishes (EX 04-06, Perfect Finish and Cut & Finish). All of the sonax polishes that I have used do not dust. Griot`s perfecting Cream is a nice finishing polish.
 
I was in the shade using a PC random orbital. a few passes. Let dry, 80-85 degrees. speed setting 2-3 I think. Both cut and polish sucked to buff off. Maybe I was using too much product but I had to really rub and rub to get product off. I think some parts I ended up rinsing with water to get off.
 
Ok, here`s the issue:

hawaiidude said:
I was in the shade using a PC random orbital. a few passes. Let dry, 80-85 degrees. speed setting 2-3 I think. Both cut and polish sucked to buff off. Maybe I was using too much product but I had to really rub and rub to get product off. I think some parts I ended up rinsing with water to get off.
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You don’t have to let a compound or polish dry before removal. Immediately removed both once you’ve finished a section pass. It’s not a traditional wax that needs time to cure first.
 
Like ^ ^ he said. And you can up the speed on the da also. 4-5 would break down the compound and polish and wipe of directly. And 4-5 passes so you see the products clear up.
 
I didn`t really have any issues when I did the wifes GLE with Essence followed by CSL/EXO. I was a bit surprised at how fast you have to remove both of those coating though. Almost instantly or you get streaking and high spots, where as when I used Gloss coat I let it flash for a few minutes before wiping away.

Why are you thinking essence won`t work?
 
There are quite a few good polishes and compounds out there. Would pick one you like and then use Panel wipe a couple times after to be sure you get any left over stuff.


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I like polish angel final finish - no dust, you don`t need to use a whole lot of it, and it smells fantastic (which is something I can`t say about any other finishing polish I`ve used and really does make the experience more enjoyable)

but as stated above, there are many good polishes and compounds.... I`d just recommend not using anything that is a coating primer or has any wax/sealant in it (of course) and definitely use the panel wipe step before coating

and don`t let my test be the end all be all of essence not working with GTECH, I`m just a hack with some fancy tools and a strong curiosity, but I would definitely not recommend using them together
 
512detail said:
I like polish angel final finish - no dust, you don`t need to use a whole lot of it, and it smells fantastic (which is something I can`t say about any other finishing polish I`ve used and really does make the experience more enjoyable)

but as stated above, there are many good polishes and compounds.... I`d just recommend not using anything that is a coating primer or has any wax/sealant in it (of course) and definitely use the panel wipe step before coating

and don`t let my test be the end all be all of essence not working with GTECH, I`m just a hack with some fancy tools and a strong curiosity, but I would definitely not recommend using them together
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512, so what did you find that makes you not recommend using essence with GTECH? I`ve had the combo on my wifes car essence CSL/EXO for a few months now with out issue. Did you just not have good longevity or something?
 
ride92 said:
512, so what did you find that makes you not recommend using essence with GTECH? I`ve had the combo on my wifes car essence CSL/EXO for a few months now with out issue. Did you just not have good longevity or something?
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it seemed to have failed completely at a little over one year and four decon (iron) washes , if not earlier and was held up by `waxwasting` tendencies

I have a thread out on this but I need to put a few more updates in it and further thoughts that I have been pondering over the past week or so..i`ll do that after work today
 
512detail said:
it seemed to have failed completely at a little over one year and four decon (iron) washes , if not earlier and was held up by `waxwasting` tendencies

I have a thread out on this but I need to put a few more updates in it and further thoughts that I have been pondering over the past week or so..i`ll do that after work today
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Interesting, Ill guess I`ll keep an eye on my wifes car as we are just getting into the winter months here. I`ll see how it holds up with the beating a Wisconsin winter is going to give it.

I think come spring I`m going to try the CSL/EXO combo on my CX-5 and see how it works. I plan on polishing off the remaining Gloss Coat that is on there with menzerna 3800 so I`ll be able to compare the two as the time ticks by.
 
I have been looking at polish angel but cost is preventing me from purchasing. Might give griots BOSS line a shot, or mckee. Or maybe polish angel if there`s a good sale.
 
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