PO85RD vs. Spiderwebbing

tstead

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I have the following polishing products:



PC with 6.5" LC backing plate

white, orange, and red LC CCS pads from CMA

Menzerna IP

Menzerna FTG

Zaino ZPC

2 500W Halogens (this qualifies as a polishing tool :)



I just placed an order for some PO85RD.



A few months ago, I polished my car (dark blue Lexus, sot paint) with an orange pad and ZPC to remove the light swirls from the free dealer car washes. I didn't have my lights and my feet were really bothering me so I only did one pass per panel. Although I should have, I didn't follow with a final pass with ZPC and a white pad. The only polish I had was ZPC; I didn't get the menzerna products until later.



Well, there is some minor spiderwebbing left that I want to get rid of. I thought I'd get the PO85RD instead of the PO106FF because after reading posts here, it seemed like the 85RD was the better choice. Now I'm not so sure because some claim that 85RD has no correction capabilities.



So, if all I want to do is remove minor marring and spiderwebbing, will the 85RD be aggressive enough or should I cancel that order and get some 106FF instead? If I should go the 106FF route then I'll probably get the Blackfire equivalent.



Thanks in advance for your advice!



Tim
 
On my car, PO85RD will remove light hazing but not touch swirl marks. PO106FF, on the other hand, will remove light swirl marks.



Your paint may not respond the same way, though.
 
I would go with the 106ff since I find that the final gloss level is the same. Last time when I polished out the wifes BMW back in Nov, I did 106ff and followed with 085. I could not tell any difference in the gloss level.
 
So if I understand this correctly, 85RD is only good for removing the haze left after compounding but will not remove any minor surface defects such as spiderwebbing, minor marring, or very light scratches whereas 106FF will and leave the same finish as 85RD?



I find that ZPC will get rid of the scratches, marring, swirls, etc. but it does leave a haze. Although the haze goes away under 100W halogen when I apply Z5, I want it gone BEFORE I apply the Z5. Zaino's website says this is normal for the product...perhaps I don't like the way the product works "normally" then.....



I want a polish that will remove the very light marring and spiderwebbing that can develop after 3-4 months of daily driving and weekly hand washing (during the summer at least, I live in Northwest Ohio so not much handwashing over the winter) and not have to worry about removing too much CC in the process. I want one polish with light cutting that I can use with a white pad and not have ANY hazing left when I'm done. It sounds like 106FF is the better of the two for that. Am I correct?
 
The only time I ever got hazing with ZPC is when I used too much. If you can't get the ZPC to work for you, then I would use the 106ff.
 
If you follow zpc with a white or black LC pad it will remove the hazing and produce a very nice gloss. I use zpc as a final polish a lot with great results! I have gotten my best results so far by pc.



85rd is a great polish if you want to remove compound hazing and produce a great gloss without removing much clearcoat. 106 is a tad stronger if you want to remove deeper micro marring from paint and will produce the same gloss as 85rd. I find both menzerna's to work at there peak by rotory with a finish pad. Just make sure you do a ipa and z6 wipedown to remove the polish residue oils before zaino sealant.



Z5 topped over either one of these is mouth watering. look at some of my click and brags.
 
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