Pinnacle Souveran observation; opinions solicited

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JustinR32

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I'm not going to post a picture because all you'll see is a shiny car!



The car is a Classic Red '97 Miata (no clearcoat). The finish is "OK"; I bought the car used in '00, and it looks OK now.



I did 2 coats of Souveran paste, by hand, with 4 days separating the applications. Then, after a 24 hour wait, I applied a coat of Liquid Souveran, as suggested on the Pinnacle site. I used a PC7424 to apply the liquid, and wiped/buffed it off with a Viper microfiber towel.



IMO, the car looked better after the 2 coats of paste, and before the liquid.



The car still looks great, I just think it looked better before the coat of liquid. I'll wait a couple days and re-apply the paste.



Has anyone had a similar experience? Or does anyone have any comments to share on my experience?





Mosca
 
I use Souveran and Liquid Souveran. I layer them all the time. I've never seen a depreciated appearance after applying LS over Souveran. At first I thought I did but I just had too many products on the car at the time. When I polished them all off and tried it again I found that I actually prefer LS instead of the paste Souveran on my car. I have a white car though and that could make a difference.
 
I was searching a lot on this board for Souveran info as a Zaino converter. What i had read about the LQ Souveran was that, its not as " popping " on darker colored cars when layering. Alothough its inexpensive, i never added any to my cart. So far im impressed to hell with the Souveran Paste and i have no desire to try the liquid on black.
 
If you want to layer, use the liquid 1st. I sometimes do this with Meguiar's Gold Class liquid - looks darn good by itself. Wait a day or two, then paste. There is WAY more solvent in the liquids - so there is a good chance they're removing most of what's under them. Use the paste alone, or at least, last.
 
carguy would be correct in using the LS first. This is what I do because I feel that a paste carnuba, such as Pinnacle or S100 (P21S) should be the last thing to be applied on the surface of your finish. Except of course for a spritzing of a QD.



Anthony
 
Well, I had 2 people at work come up to me and offer unsolicited praise of the car's appearance, so, as long as they don't know that it could look better I'm keeping that a secret!



I'll re-paste it tonight. I sort of thought that it was strange putting liquid over paste, but WTH, the car's small, it only takes about an hour to do it.



Thanks!





Mosca
 
rleven,



The setup:



I bought my car used, and the only way I can describe its condition then was that it looked like someone had let their kids play with sand on it. OTOH, it only had 13,700 miles, leather seats and a hardtop, so the deal was good. I had our shop buff it (I work at a car dealership), and for the next 2 years, I did the average guy's wash and wax.



The finish really got to me last year; the car is so nice, except for the scratches! So, I bought a PC7424 and some 3M polishing compound, a claybar kit (Mother's), and some ScratchX, and went to work. I clayed, and then polished, and then I did the ScratchX over and over and over, until all that were left were the deepest scratches. None of them were through the red, (well maybe a couple were). Since it was going into winter, I applied NuFinish for durability, and then the car sat in the garage, because in quick succession it was Thanksgiving, then vacation, then Christmas, and I didn't get the snow tires on until February.



So, to answer the question,



I washed with the Pinnacle Shampoo, PC7424'd it with Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion, and applied the Souveran by hand. I figure that it had seen very little use since the major cleanup of last fall.



I'll try for a picture; black photographs so much nicer! In this picture, the branches on the upper part of the hood aren't shadows, they are reflections of the sky and the tree above the car.
 
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