Pinnacle Paste Glaz vs. Signature Series

1 Clean WS6

1 Clean WS6

Detailing Rottweiler
Hello all!



I can't believe Pinnacle is ending production of the Paste Glaz wax. This has been my "goto" carnuba for light colors for some time...so I bought a few of the "buy one get one free" deals to stash away. I like the Signature Series a bunch...it has always been my "goto" carnuba on dark metallics but I have yet to use it on a light color...that was always a PG job for me. To those that have used both waxes on light color vehicles what are your opinions? Is the Signature Series a worthy replacement for PG? How do the looks differ on a light colored vehicle?



Thanks for your input!

Mike :cool:
 
1 Clean WS6 said:
Hello all!



Is the Signature Series a worthy replacement for PG? How do the looks differ on a light colored vehicle?



Thanks for your input!

Mike :cool:
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In a word............... YES! The Signature Series paste looks great on light colors! I can't tell the difference on most light colors between PG and SS................ of course, my eyes are getting old! :D
 
Mike, I love Signature on my Solara. I never used PG so I can't say that one is better than the other. SilverLexus has used both so hopefully he'll chime in.



You can check out my pics of Signature topping AIO: http://photobucket.com/albums/v415/mtodde/Pinnacle Signature/



These are a few that Lee took: http://photobucket.com/albums/v415/mtodde/Silver Showdown/



The ones Lee took are at 2 different resolutions. I think it would look great on your car. Let me know if you want to try it sometime.
 
I'll let you know what I think of Signature tomorrow. As I write this, I am taking a break from applying AIO, SG, and then Signature.



Signature better impress me because I had a very hard time touching my car with AIO. I didn't want to remove my last process of AIO-SG-Natty's-#16, which looked superb.
 
Here's my view. Paste Glaz imparts a slight yellow tint like #26 does...Signature has a nicer look that works well on light colors. It's a little more expensive but works well.



I do still prefer P21S or S100 by a slight margin.
 
"Have you tried #16 or Natty's on your car?"



I'm not a big fan of #16 since I used to use it on my prior ES with middling success (a beautiful Oyster Pearl gold/silver finish). I have not tried it on the new car, maybe I will since my technique has improved. I find #16 a bit difficult to apply compared to the new stuff.



To be honest, I'm a bit skeptical that it will be better than P21S which I have now (two jars!). I've tried everything and nothing seems to beat the P21S look on silver. I will keep an open mind though.



I've got some Natty's on order for my car but I did not like on my wife's Camry. How's the durability?



Heck, I'm an Autopian: I will try anything once. :)
 
#16 is a PITA to remove but the look on my Lunar Mist has been unlike anything I've tried before. Very crisp, clear, reflective, and shows off the metallic flake. Natty's also looks nice but it has a wetter appearance and darkens the paint. Natty's will not be as durable.



I'm still under the assumption that P21S is very similar to S100 which I have used on black. Haven't used it on silver because I've read P21S and S100 are better for dark colors. Maybe I'll try the S100 on my mom's silver SUV...



I just finished putting Klasse AIO and SG on my car in prep for Pinnacle Signature. I'll apply the Signature tomorrow after another wash. Hope I like it because like I said above, I had a hard time touching my car with the AIO to remove Natty's and #16. This is the third carnauba I have put on my car in a month, LOL.
 
"Haven't used it on silver because I've read P21S and S100 are better for dark colors."



Not true! if anything in my experience P21S/S100 is better on light colors. It works great on dark colors as well but gives blacks a more reflective look (which some prefer) than wet, glossy look ala Souveran (which some prefer).



Wherea Souveran is best on dark, P21S I have found to be very versatile on any color.



If Natty's darkens the paint slightly then I am losing enthusiasm but will probably try it anyway being an OCD Autopian. :)



I have a small suggestion for the Solara process...Once you have AIO in place and surface prepped, try a section with P21S and a section with Signature. You may find the P21S or S100 is better. I find P21S to be a very clear wax whereas Signature has some slight or very slight darkening properties. Maybe you can try both on a lower section as a controlled test.



I think P21S is the same as S100 or so close there is no effective difference. I use P21S only because I got a deal on some kits from Top of the Line...
 
I'll do either the hood or trunk 50/50 with S100 and Signature. Wonder if a camera could pick up on the differences on the highest resolution?



Or maybe I'll do 33/33/33 (#16/S100/Signature). :D
 
TW85 HHI said:
I'll do either the hood or trunk 50/50 with S100 and Signature. Wonder if a camera could pick up on the differences on the highest resolution?



Or maybe I'll do 33/33/33 (#16/S100/Signature). :D
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Only an Autopian, LOL! I'd love to see pics! We really had a hard time telling on Lee's Lexus...I thought the Pinnacle picked up the flake a bit more, but that may be my bias.
 
TW85 HHI-#16 is a piece of cake to use if you apply it like S100, a panel at a time and remove. Thin layers and not letting it completely dry are the key.
 
Well, I am officially sick. I divided my trunk lid into 1/4s and applied Natty's, #16, Signature, and S100. I doubt appearance differences will be noticeable, but I am also going to test the durability over a 4 week period. I would go longer, but I think mtodde is coming to Hilton Head for Thanksgiving so I need the best product to be on my car by then. :D :LOLOL



Sorry about the poor lighting.



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Scottwax,



You're right. I just applied #16 to a 1/4 section of my trunk lid and it was a breeze to remove. The first time I used #16 I applied it too heavily. :)
 
TW85 HHI said:
Well, I am officially sick. I divided my trunk lid into 1/4s and applied Natty's, #16, Signature, and S100. I doubt appearance differences will be noticeable, but I am also going to test the durability over a 4 week period. I would go longer, but I think mtodde is coming to Hilton Head so I need the best product to be on my car by then. :D :LOLOL



Sorry about the poor lighting.



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Scottwax,



You're right. I just applied #16 to a 1/4 section of my trunk lid and it was a breeze to remove. The first time I used #16 I applied it too heavily. :)
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YESSSS!!! :bigups



I'd still like to know the differences of Signature Series vs. Paste Glaz on a light color. :nixweiss
 
Greg you are a sick man...I'm looking forward to your results. It looks like I will finally get to try VM + EX-P tomorrow!
 
I blame you, Todd. I had stopped visiting Autopia until we started talking through SolaraGuy. Since mid-September I have spent over $500 on detailing supplies. :rofl :wall
 
TW85 HHI said:
I blame you, Todd. I had stopped visiting Autopia until we started talking through SolaraGuy. Since mid-September I have spent over $500 on detailing supplies. :rofl :wall
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:p Dang...you're even worse than me! :sosad







I dropped about another $100 today...part of that was on storage containers though. Here's an incentive for you to place a new order! PAC is offering a free Four Star Ultimate Gloss Enhancer...you just pay shipping. I picked up the Poorboy's wheel cleaner, an applicator & some P21S shampoo too...plus I ordered some car wash & detail spray from Adam's along with a new wash mitt. I think I'll have about 10 different car washes when they arrive. I got in on the Adam's sample on DC and was impressed. Lee even asked what I had on the car.



Maybe we can trade a few samples at Thanksgiving...if there's anything we both don't have, LOL.
 
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