Pic of Swirls and Clear Failure

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SWIRLS!



Many people can't identify swirls so I've finally been able to gather some picture of the types of swirls.



Now, I did this for you guys! Look what I had to do to my truck! Swirled it up!



These are the swirl marks from a rotary buffer. They are called "swirlmarks" because there are actual swirls in the paint from the buffer. If you look at the swirls at the edge of the bedcover, then you can actually make out the round shape of them.



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These are often called spiderweb or cobweb swirls. They are more of microscratching in the paint caused by rubbing dirt into the paint, improper washing, improper buffing, etc. The best way to see them is to have a light source shine into the paint and they'll orbit around it. I have found going to a parking lot and night is a great way to see them. The high overhead lights are bright enough to reflect them and not soo bright the blot them out.





I have arrows pointing to the marks in these pics. Hopefully you'll be able to find them :p



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another



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Now, can you find them in this picture? It is a real art to get rid of these SOBs.



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Clear Failure



Here are some pics of the clear failing. There is a big list of what causes this to happen. It is mainly the painters fault (but can also be yours).



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Bravo! Great pics. Thanks for posting those up! That will help out a lot. We need to get these pics in an area like the Acronym area. Thanks for the great clarification photos! :bow :xyxthumbs
 
The picture in which you show "swirls" I call those buffer marks or buffer induced burn marks. The picture of your "spiderwebbing" shows what I call swirl marks. Anyone else agree or do I have my terminology mixed up?
 
You can call them buffer induced swirl marks or just swirl marks, but they're not buffer burns. The spiderwebbing pics are indeed, what i call spiderwebbing.
 
Adamah said:
The picture in which you show "swirls" I call those buffer marks or buffer induced burn marks. The picture of your "spiderwebbing" shows what I call swirl marks. Anyone else agree or do I have my terminology mixed up?
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They are all fixed with the same measures. Spiderwebbing is just pretty severe swirl marks. You get them by drying your car with old crusty bathtowels and stuff. Swirls are just what happens when you drive your car around. Pretty much the same thing but just different severities.
 
Adamah said:
The picture in which you show "swirls" I call those buffer marks or buffer induced burn marks. The picture of your "spiderwebbing" shows what I call swirl marks. Anyone else agree or do I have my terminology mixed up?
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You can call them buffer marks but they are not burn marks. There are several different things that can be referred to as burn marks and no, I'm not going to burn the paint on my truck to show you... :D



You can use a too agressive of a pad and actually cut through the paint to the metal. You can also heat the paint up too much and actually get heat spots in the paint and damage it to a point it causes premature clearcoat failure.



Edit: The marks from the buffer spinning are from using an agressive compound. The particles are big to do agressive cutting so they leave visible swirls in the paint. (Some of that marking is also oils from the compound). You them come back with a finer polish and remove those marks. There is no Damage to the paint.



Edit2: Quoted the wrong person. fixed now :p
 
EDVWVR6 said:
The only pic i can think of is one of a failing clear-coat. The ends crack and turn white.http://autoint.com/pict1paintdegr.htm
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This link works: http://autoint.com/pict1paintdegr.htm





Taxlady, is that the type of cracking you are referring to?



I know there is a cracking of the clear that looks like a ton of little cracks in a concentrated area. Like a very small area. Like an area the size of a nickel or quarter. It can grow larger though. I believe it is called Crazing or Crows Feet.
 
I can't see it in that picture. (I can see the picture.) :(



Crazing sounds like a good name for what I meant. I just know that some people call that spiderwebbing. I think the microscratching looks more like a spiderweb - the stuff in the third photo.
 
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