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Permanon Coating
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It's not a secret that Permanon makes GTeching C2..that doesn't mean that it's the same product.
brk said:hotcar is correct...they are the same, just different branding for different regional markets. It's mentioned at the bottom of the FAQ's page on the Permanon Finishes website. Just search google for those two words.
pootoo12000 said:MDRX8: Get the concentrate. Apply like Optiseal or OCW. Spreading it around the panel quickly is key, as it apparently bonds very quickly. Give it a final buff and that's it! The 3 week shelf life mixed is from Permanon, oddly, Gtechniq gives no such caveat. Luckily, I've never mixed more than I need for an application. Permanon has a cool dual bottle sprayer which self mixes a 5% solution with distilled H2O. I've just received it and used it once. Otherwise, mix 1 part concentrate to 19 parts dist. H2O into a sprayer. You can use it straight if you like, but I've honestly not seen any difference straight v. 5%, so it seems like kind of a waste. ebpcivicsi: My customers are not what you would call an affluent clientele. A 2-step polish is a big upgrade for them. These are daily drivers, so they get 476, 1000p or a new favorite, 3M Performance Finish. Autobalm if they're swirled and they won't spring for a polish. So, the silicium is reserved for my 3 vehicles. White, silver and black. Looks equally good on all 3. By the way, if 5 months of real durability is a must, give that 3M product a try, though, to be honest, I've never seen an LSP that didn't look like crap after 5 months on a daily driver. Ever.
Permanon doesn't really need to be "spread around" so long as you're using a fine-mist sprayer and applying an even coat. No "final buff" is required either. All you should be doing is wiping away the water before it has a chance to dry to avoid water spotting. The dual bottle sprayer is cool...when it works. Just as easy to mix the 50 ml measuring cap full of concentrate into a 32oz spray bottle, with an adjustable nozzle for a fine mist application, then fill the rest with clean water (5% solution). Durability depends on the amount of driving you do...how much road abrasion the surface is subjected to (sand, salt, etc). But they offer a 2-in-1 maintenance product that fills any gaps in the coverage while you wash the car.
Good info, but I might add to use distilled water.
brk said:Permanon doesn't really need to be "spread around" so long as you're using a fine-mist sprayer and applying an even coat. No "final buff" is required either. All you should be doing is wiping away the water before it has a chance to dry to avoid water spotting. The dual bottle sprayer is cool...when it works. Just as easy to mix the 50 ml measuring cap full of concentrate into a 32oz spray bottle, with an adjustable nozzle for a fine mist application, then fill the rest with clean water (5% solution). Durability depends on the amount of driving you do...how much road abrasion the surface is subjected to (sand, salt, etc). But they offer a 2-in-1 maintenance product that fills any gaps in the coverage while you wash the car.
It seems that they are the same. Here is a quote from the Permanon Finishes FAQ's page:
"What is the difference between
C2 Liquid Crystal and Permanon?
Permanon and C2 Liquid Crystal are one and the same. They both contain the same formulas and are produced by the same German manufacturer. The only difference is the branding or labeling and the regional market places where they are sold. Permanon is the primary brand name sold throughout most of Europe and the United States. C2 Liquid Crystal is a private label that is sold in the UK."
"What is the difference between
C2 Liquid Crystal and Permanon?
Permanon and C2 Liquid Crystal are one and the same. They both contain the same formulas and are produced by the same German manufacturer. The only difference is the branding or labeling and the regional market places where they are sold. Permanon is the primary brand name sold throughout most of Europe and the United States. C2 Liquid Crystal is a private label that is sold in the UK."
Legacy99 said:It's not a secret that Permanon makes GTeching C2..that doesn't mean that it's the same product.
Agreed, distilled water will significantly reduce or eliminate the possibility of water spotting. However, water spotting can still occur, even with distilled water, if it's applied outside on a breezy day (depending of course on your surroundings). In any case, and especially for the perfectionists, it's best to apply Permanon in sections so that you can wipe away the water before it has a chance to dry. It's the best way to be sure you're getting the best results. As side note, you'll find that with this new layer of protection in place, even if you do end up with some degree of water spotting, it will now be much easier to clean off the spots.
Legacy99 said:Good info, but I might add to use distilled water.