Perfect It III MG 05937

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Joshua312

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Well I always read Accumulator uses this product and swears by it, and now ebcivics. I always figured I would never find it locally since it is now discontinued. I found a place online, and a local detailing/paint supplier has some and I asked how much of it he had left. He said he has boxes of the stuff still, he says no one even asks for it anymore; and I came in with all my item numbers written down :)



Anyways..I was just wondering what exactly this can be used for, mainly as a finishing polish Im assuming? Any idea where the cut is compared to other popular products so I can get a feel for it. Thanks for the help!



(Accumulator & ebcivics - Thanks for the reccomendation!)
 
Joshua312 said:
Well I always read Accumulator uses this product and swears by it, and now ebcivics. I always figured I would never find it locally since it is now discontinued. I found a place online, and a local detailing/paint supplier has some and I asked how much of it he had left. He said he has boxes of the stuff still, he says no one even asks for it anymore; and I came in with all my item numbers written down :)



Anyways..I was just wondering what exactly this can be used for, mainly as a finishing polish Im assuming? Any idea where the cut is compared to other popular products so I can get a feel for it. Thanks for the help!



(Accumulator & ebcivics - Thanks for the reccomendation!)
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Well here is a link to a product chart comparing cut and useage. I am sure others can verify or clarify the accuracy of this chart. I only use PB, Menzerna, MEG and OP. so posted this as a possible guidline for you. the results from 3M have been impressive on the pics I have seen though.



http://dano.pocketrubbish.com/detailing/productchart.htm
 
flatstick said:
Well here is a link to a product chart comparing cut and useage. I am sure others can verify or clarify the accuracy of this chart. I only use PB, Menzerna, MEG and OP. so posted this as a possible guidline for you. the results from 3M have been impressive on the pics I have seen though.



http://dano.pocketrubbish.com/detailing/productchart.htm
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just my $.02 / but in regards to that chart (which I thought was really good and a nifty reference tool) I really feel that the 3M fine cut rubbing compound is alot more agressive than the Meg's #83.

I also have Megs #85 and both the #85 and the 3M FC RC is rated to remove 1200 grade sand paper....



I can never get the 'bite' out of the megs 80 series stuff,,, but I suppose rotary users do!!
 
I find 05937 is sorta like #80 only without the initial abrasiveness that #80 has and without #80's trade secret oils. I haven't really used all that many products to compare it with (I find something and stick with it forever) but I'd just call 05937 a very mild, general purpose polish. It *will* remove light marring by hand/Cyclo/PC. With the rotary I've done some more serious correction with it.



It takes a little while to break down completely but it;s usually not a big deal if you wipe it off too soon since it's pretty mild. Don't work it dry. Hard to say just how long you oughta work it, but IMO it's easy to get the hang of. The way it doesn't instantly mar soft paints can be a real plus.



Some people (who have experience and know what they're doing) have had light holograms from it when used with the rotary. Not every time, but sometimes :nxweiss I'd just always do a follow-up with the PC/Cyclo- it's too mild to leave *serious* holograms that would be a pain to get out.



If you use it to cut through a very healthy LSP (e.g., multiple layers of KSG) it can make for a gummy mess, so use an alcohol wipe first if in doubt. It can stain textured black plastics if allowed to dry on them but isn't bad in this regard if you wipe it off right away. I like to keep some #34 handy when I use this stuff, and I buff it off with plush MFs.



Don't really know what else to say about it. I'd hate to be without it so I've stocked up.



On some of the other topics that are on this thread, not :argue just my experience:



A lot of how #80 behaves is how it's used. Not running the machine too fast can sometimes make it *more* aggressive as the abrasives do their thing longer before they break down (sorta like 1z polishes in this regard). #80 seems to either work for people or not, depending in part on what they expect of it.



3M PI-II FCRC has just a *little* more cut than PI-III RC (05933). I dunno about their claims of "taking out 1200 scratches", you'd have to really work at it with a rotary for that kind of performance. Both these 3M RCs work OK by hand/PC/Cyclo as well as rotary (more than you can say for the aggressive Meg's products ;) ) and are *not* so aggressive that you have to really watch it with them. 99% of the time I'd feel comfortable taking them to most any finish with no worries that they'd be too aggressive and if anything my work would go faster with a more aggressive product. I use them on single stage fairly often and the 05933 is pretty much my go-to product for real correction (in drastic cases I get out the PI-III Extra cut 05936...sorta scary stuff that). Sometimes they'll both finish out almost well enough to just go to wax, but I'd always use something like the 05937 or #80 after them anyhow.
 
Sounds good! So Im going to place it a *little bit* below my #80 in agressiveness. I will probably still stick with FPII as my go to finishing polish but if I ever run into it where I re-introduce marring via the next polish in my arsenal I will have to grab for the 05937. Im going to be doing a detail on my dads jeep once the weather clears up so I will have to give it a practice run. Thanks for the input! For pad choice should I stick with finishing or polishing pad - I really need to get my hands on some light-polishing pads :(
 
Joshua312 said:
Sounds good! So Im going to place it a *little bit* below my #80 in agressiveness. I will probably still stick with FPII as my go to finishing polish but if I ever run into it where I re-introduce marring via the next polish in my arsenal I will have to grab for the 05937. Im going to be doing a detail on my dads jeep once the weather clears up so I will have to give it a practice run. Thanks for the input! For pad choice should I stick with finishing or polishing pad - I really need to get my hands on some light-polishing pads :(
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I almost always use the 05937 with a polishing pad: Cyclo green (but you could also use their white finishing pad) but those are a bit harsh sometimes, Lake white, Meg's 8006, or even Griot's orange (milder than you'd think for how hard it is, prime with lots of product first). IMO the Lake and Meg's pads are mild enough that there's no real need to go softer with a machine like the PC- those pads don't really contribute any cut of their own that I can discern, they just let the products do the work. Sometimes a softer pad, with fewer PPI, can load up weirdly and not work as well as a more open pad- not a huge issue with the 05937 but still...



Using FPII after it will give a *little* better look sometimes (and some will notice, some won't IMO). Might depend in part on how soft a pad you use with the 05937.



Too bad you can't get the 1Z pro MP any more..on the S8, after doing 05933/05937 I used FP (that's FPI but anyhow..). I somehow thought I could get better so I went over half and adjacent panel with 1Z Pro MP, twice. WOW, big difference compared with both the 05937 by itself and even the FP. I'm sure not knocking anything by Menzerna, but that was something I couldn't ignore so I can't help but mention it.
 
Sludge- Yeah, that's it. Notice how it says "not related to the Metallic in the other line" (or words to that effect). That's the clue that it's the right stuff. I was told by the guys at 1z that they were gonna discontinue it, maybe they had second thoughts :nixweiss I'd love to be wrong about it being unavailable.
 
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