PC7336 vs Meguiar's G110v2 - Is the difference significant?

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bamorris2

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I currently have a Porter-Cable 7336 that I purchased several years ago at Lowes. I'm an ocassional user and use it on my personal vehicles only. I also picked up Meg's DA Microfiber kit and plan on using it soon. To that end, I've recently begun watching videos of how to use the DAMF system, and I keep noticing the new DA maching from Meguiars.



My question is, does the new Meg's unit have a significant advantage over the one that I currently have? I don't necesarilly have money to burn, but if it's "that much" better, then I may get it.



Please note: The new Meg's unit is the only other machine that I'm considering. I'm not interested in any other brands and/or machines.
 
I have both the 7336 (actually mine is a Meguiar's G100A, their private labeled version from back in the day) and the G110v2... and yes, the difference is definitely significant.



That said, if all you're using the machine on is your personal vehicles and you maintain them well, you probably don't need the extra power for light polishing with the DA MF system. If I were in your shoes, I'd spend the money to pick up a 3" backing plate and spot pads for your current machine to make working in tight areas easier.
 
I agree with Charlie that you do not necessarily need a new machine. The machine you have is remarkably capable (I was using my rebadged G100 when testing the Meguiar's DA Microfiber Discs, and still use a few different G100's today).



Give the 5" DA Microfiber System a go, and hone your skills. For final polishing and waxing, you may want to have a 6"-7" foam pad on hand as well- the foam can sometimes deliver a more refined finish (or deliver a nice finish easier).



Once you maximize your abilities, and if at that time you're itching for a new machine... The Meguiar's G110v2 is a great choice.
 
I, OTOH, find my older PCs (one of which is a 7336) woefully underpowered to the point of being quite frustrating. Only way I can get any significant correction done is with a 4" pad, and that includes combos like M105/MF.
 
Accumulator said:
I, OTOH, find my older PCs (one of which is a 7336) woefully underpowered to the point of being quite frustrating. Only way I can get any significant correction done is with a 4" pad, and that includes combos like M105/MF.
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Interesting. Maybe you got a dud? Want me to send you one of each of mine to compare?
 
Kevin Brown said:
Interesting. Maybe you got a dud? Want me to send you one of each of mine to compare?
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I know for sure my 7424 XP is more powerful than the original 7424 (which I believe is very similar to the 7336). If the paint is in good condition though, the extra power wouldn't be necessary.
 
Kevin Brown said:
Interesting. Maybe you got a dud? Want me to send you one of each of mine to compare?
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Nah, thanks for the offer but it's not worth messing around with as I now have superior units.



Doubt that both of mine are duds, especially as the older one was rebuilt and their performance has seemed consistent over many, many years. Note that one of 'em did cut right through clear for a pal of mine at an Autopia G-T-G (she was using something on a Meg's 7006) so I guess it's not like they won't do the work, just not to my satisfaction.



Simply no comparison with my GG 6"; last time I tried using a PC I promptly asked myself "hold it, what the [#^@&] am I *doing*with this thing?!?" and put it back in its case.



Scottwax said:
I know for sure my 7424 XP is more powerful than the original 7424 (which I believe is very similar to the 7336).
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Right, I have one of each and they're the same except for the plate/weight, which I've swapped out so many times that I can't say which machine is which.
 
One reason for my OP is because my machine has never really rotated pads very well at all. It spins just fine when freewheeling, but once the pad goes to the paint, it stops, especially with moderate pressure. It does this with any pad and any polishing product (and any amount of it). I've always felt it was a little weak in this area. I understand that the D/A machines are not forced rotation, but what I see on videos from the G110v2, it spins MUCH better than mine.
 
bamorris2- Yeah, today's more powerful machines really do keep the rotation going. I was downright amazed how well the GG is in this regard, and I hear the Meguiar's v2 is at least as good. I can keep the rotation going OK with my PCs, but not without a) using smaller pads and b) really working at it. And it's still not a happy situation even when it's working OK (well, as close to "OK" as it gets for me ;) ).
 
I guess I'm in the minority of people who find the older Porter Cable DA's to be adequate. In fact, I have bought and tried a few of the new DA's only to revert back to the old 7336.



The Griot's, 7424XP and G110V2 all seem to have more power than some of the original models, but they lack the comfort of an older 7424 or 7336. At the same time, I have not experience any real time savings with a machine with extra amps.



To me, the pad, polish and speed used are much more important than the supposed amount of amps.





To each their own. I'm part of the crowd who uses nothing above five and finishes with a much lower speed.
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
I guess I'm in the minority of people who find the older Porter Cable DA's to be adequate. In fact, I have bought and tried a few of the new DA's only to revert back to the old 7336.



The Griot's, 7424XP and G110V2 all seem to have more power than some of the original models, but they lack the comfort of an older 7424 or 7336. At the same time, I have not experience any real time savings with a machine with extra amps.



To me, the pad, polish and speed used are much more important than the supposed amount of amps.





To each their own. I'm part of the crowd who uses nothing above five and finishes with a much lower speed.
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It's like going cross country in a prop plane vrs. a jet. Both will get you there.
 
PorscheGuy997 said:
I guess I'm in the minority of people who find the older Porter Cable DA's to be adequate. In fact, I have bought and tried a few of the new DA's only to revert back to the old 7336.



The Griot's, 7424XP and G110V2 all seem to have more power than some of the original models, but they lack the comfort of an older 7424 or 7336. At the same time, I have not experience any real time savings with a machine with extra amps.



To me, the pad, polish and speed used are much more important than the supposed amount of amps.





To each their own. I'm part of the crowd who uses nothing above five and finishes with a much lower speed.
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See how experiences and preferences differ!



Especially with regard to the "comfort" issue. My PCs vibrate my hands numb in no time (always have since the first time I used one) while I can use the others for hours on end with no such effects.



I am always surprised when people find minimal efficiency diffs though... :nixweiss
 
Knowing that I could return it if I didn't like it, I went down to Walmart on Friday night and picked up a Meguiars G110v2. Got a chance to use it yesterday on my car with the DAMF system. IMO there is in-fact a significant difference between the two units. As I mentioned before, I found it very difficult to keep my PC7336 rotating the pads. Not so with the G110v2. In fact, with this unit, the only time that I could get it to NOT rotate the pad was when I had only a small portion of my pad touching (trying to get in crevices, etc). Overall, I think it's a nice upgrade and worthwhile if you can afford it.
 
bamorris2- Glad to hear it worked out so well for you. After the way I go on about !big diffs! I'd have felt bad if you had to take it back.
 
I have been considering something different then my PC 7424XP but fortunately spoke with Kevin B. about a new "full fitting backing plate" and as he predicted, I'm getting significantly better performance out of the same machine. For finishing I typically use the LC HT Crimson pad that would never rotate with the smaller backing plate. Now fitted with a new 5 1/2" bp, it rotates no problem even when running the speed at 4. Just did my first full detail with the new setup and there was clearly a difference in the machine's performance and my finished results. Thanks again Kevin, you da man!!!
 
Helped a friend out this weekend and used the LC HT cyan pad with m105 - that along with the new backing plate from Kevin did a fantastic job. IMO, the backing plate is making a significant difference in the overall performance therefore the end result. If you've been considering switching, I would encourage you to do so - personally I couldn't be happier.
 
addysdaddy said:
I have been considering something different then my PC 7424XP but fortunately spoke with Kevin B. about a new "full fitting backing plate" and as he predicted, I'm getting significantly better performance out of the same machine. For finishing I typically use the LC HT Crimson pad that would never rotate with the smaller backing plate. Now fitted with a new 5 1/2" bp, it rotates no problem even when running the speed at 4. Just did my first full detail with the new setup and there was clearly a difference in the machine's performance and my finished results. Thanks again Kevin, you da man!!!
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Can you elaborate more on this "full fitting backing plate"? I'm trying to revitalize an older PC 7424 (hardly used actually) but the only time the backing plate spins is on speed 6. What brand/model is this backing plate as I didn't see anything on Buffdaddy's store? Does it come in a smaller size too as I like to use 5" - 5 1/2" pads?
 
fmodena said:
Can you elaborate more on this "full fitting backing plate"? I'm trying to revitalize an older PC 7424 (hardly used actually) but the only time the backing plate spins is on speed 6. What brand/model is this backing plate as I didn't see anything on Buffdaddy's store? Does it come in a smaller size too as I like to use 5" - 5 1/2" pads?
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Xact-Fit Backing Plates for Meguiar's DA Microfiber Discs



Those are what you're looking for.
 
C. Charles Hahn said:
Xact-Fit Backing Plates for Meguiar's DA Microfiber Discs



Those are what you're looking for.
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Actually if you speak or email Kevin, he can "cut to fit" whatever pad you desire. I'm not currently using the Meg MF pad system but rather use the LC HT series. So if you have a 5" pad (or whatever) that you really like...no problem. Just give him the exact diameter measurement and you should be good to go. Again, I've seen a dramatic difference in effectiveness and the ability to run the machine at a lower speed and maintain pad rotation (while still having the pad do it's job) cannot be beat. Helping a friend this past weekend on his totally neglected RX330, I only used speed 6 on a couple of really bad spots and then only for 1-2 passes. Generally on the bad areas (like the whole f'n truck) I was at speed 5 while applying M105 and for the final polishing was able to drop it down to 4.5 with M205. According to KB's research, the machine performs differently/better at the slower speeds. The other thing I noticed was my body wasn't nearly as "beat up" since I didn't have to fight the 7424xp as much. Clearly I've morphed into a fanboy but Kevin's Xact-Fit BP is a wow in my book. Good luck and give him a call - you'll be in good hands.
 
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