PC Help

B737GDog

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Do you all use your porter cable to remove polish or glaze or only to apply? Also, I use P21s/Souveran and am curious if there is a way to use with the PC or if I should apply and remove by hand. Thanks.
 
:scared Don't be using a PC for Souveran!! A foam applicator pad just dabbed to the surface of the wax, and spread oh so smoothly on the surface of the car is all you need. Removal is a snap... no need to wit until dry. Just give it a light buff, and the shine will more than reward you for a little bit of effort. The easiest on and off I have experienced.



As for P21, I have not yet had the pleasure of using that particular product.



Use the Souveran like it was gold... it probably costs as much per ounce!!



Jeff
 
The PC is by far the fastest way to get the job done. There are still a lot of guys that do it by hand though. I do about half my jobs by hand just because there isn't a power outlet nearby.



You can't really apply P21S or Souveran with a PC. Like miata said, just use the foam applicator. Souveran does have a liquid form that you can use a PC with. It smells like vanilla milkshakes while you are putting it on too. Good stuff. Not as good as P21S or regular Souveran, but its a fast way to get a coat of carnuba on your car.



Basicly you have to be using a liquid to use a machine. Pastes just don't work. :)
 
Actually Anthony, I have used Mothers cleaner/wax (paste) and a PC. Took a spackle knife to get a bit out, and wiped it onto the pad.... Seemed to work ok, but I used a LOT of wax. I would NOT recommend this technique with a product as expensive as Souveran.



737dog, unless you are in "the business" and speed is an essential element, take the time to bond with your ride (yes folks, I am sick)and apply waxes without cleaners by hand. If you are using a product that cleans as well, then by all means use the power of the PC to assist.



Just MHO. Your mileage may vary, and since this is a free country, you can do it any way you please. :cool:



Jeff
 
Black99miata said:
Actually Anthony, I have used Mothers cleaner/wax (paste) and a PC. Took a spackle knife to get a bit out, and wiped it onto the pad.... Seemed to work ok, but I used a LOT of wax. I would NOT recommend this technique with a product as expensive as Souveran.



737dog, unless you are in "the business" and speed is an essential element, take the time to bond with your ride (yes folks, I am sick)and apply waxes without cleaners by hand. If you are using a product that cleans as well, then by all means use the power of the PC to assist.



Just MHO. Your mileage may vary, and since this is a free country, you can do it any way you please. :cool:



Jeff
Griot's also gives the tip of microwaving your wax (30 seconds?) until it is just warm, then using a putty knife to spread it over the pad. It's in one of their PDF articles.



The big advantage of the PC lies in its performance while using compounds and polishes, not really while glazing or waxing. If I had a PC, I'd try to use it (hey why not?), but glazing and liquid waxing don't see much advantage from it because you're just applying stuff onto the surface. If you have the appropriate MF bonnets, you can use it to remove wax, but I think only a few do so.
 
Thanks for the advice. I enjoy applying wax by hand. One last question, for now anyway, should I use the PC in a forward and back motion like I do when hand waxing? My search has brought up many ways and I am curious which is the best. Should I apply in the same direction as the airflow? Thanks again.
 
Definatly check out the chapter on proper PC use in David's eBook. As for me, I go back and forth in the direction the air goes. :)
 
B737

Should I use the PC in the forward and back motion?



Brad B:

Certain pads need to have compounds applied differently. That's why there is no one particular way for all applications.



Different people have different techniques. But with the PC, it's really hard to screw up. It's doing all the work and the random orbital pattern is just that...random. Making your pattern pretty much a mute point.



With a rotary it's a bigger deal and you need to be more precise and methodical. It doesn't matter what pattern you take, it's the amount of time spent on the surface in any given area.



Just passing this infor on.



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