Paused at a crossroad in today's complete detailing: vote, what next?

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JustinR32

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I've APC'd, DACP'd, IP'd, FP'd. That's a routine that works for me, to get that glassy look.



I'm now paused for an hour, to eat dinner. What should I do after dinner?



1) AIO and SG, topped with S100 tomorrow. I've had these a few months, never used them before.



2) My standard routine, #7, #20, #26, Souv paste. The #7 and #20 tonight, the #26 tomorrow, the paste Thurs.



3) Test the Crystal Guard. I have the Pro kit. It's a controversial product, with VERY strong opinions on both sides.





Cast yer votes, I'll check back in an hour or so!





Tom
 
I'm kind of a Klasse twins guy myself so I'd go with the AIO, SG and S100. I LOVE KLASSE TWINS!!!!!! There.....I said it!



Just my $0.02



JP
 
I would hybridize 1 and 2.



AIO, 2XSG, #7, #26, S100, Soveran.



What the heck, you got 'em, so might as well use 'em.:cool:
 
I would AIO, SG over the course of a week (1X each day), leave it at that, want to be anal, Souveran paste over all that.
 
#26, S100, Soveran <-- will those layer or are you just taking off the last one you put on with the one your putting on?
 
JasonC8301 said:
I would AIO, SG over the course of a week (1X each day), leave it at that, want to be anal, Souveran paste over all that.
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What he said. 1 layer AIO tonight, 1 tomorrow, rest of week 1 layer SG per day.
 
Im really interested in AIO and SG. Tascar has the set for $34.99 but I was wondering how they should be applied?



Also, how does Klasse look on blacks? I have a granada black metallic car.



Thanks
 
Nope, no Menzerna Sealing Wax. If it's as good as the polishes, it's great, though.



I'll AIO. Can I AIO and SG back to back, or do I HAVE TO wait a day to do the first coat of SG? I know, use the search, look at the post in the HOF. Still, anyone with a quick answer is appreciated.





Tom
 
No need to wait for the first coat of SG. It can be applied right away on top of the AIO. It's the 2nd coat that has to wait 24 hours.



Is this on your Miata? If so, post some pics. Let's see if it's any better or different than your previous pics with #26. Just curious.
 
Yep, the Miata. I decided not to use the CG on it. It's such a great palette for testing products, because it's so small, I can do almost anything in an hour. CG needs a long-term test. I'll do it on the Trailblazer. But not this weekend, maybe next.



AIO is on and off. I used 2 oz (I put it into a 2 oz bottle) to do the car twice with AIO, no wipe-off between coats. That stuff is a sob to get off; I used Sonus QD spritzed onto the mf removal towel, that worked really well. I hope it didn't remove any AIO... can't see how it would.



I'm taking a little break, having a bit of sherbet. It's about 60* out, with the halogens in the garage with the door open it's about 68*, perfect. There's very low humidity, and not a cloud in the starry sky.



I'll have to wait until tomorrow or the next day to take pictures. My initial impression of AIO is probably what all you AIO lovers already know; VERY slick and smooth, and it doesn't rob color at the expense of reflectivity as much as some other synthetics; it doesn't seem to have the "wrapped in plastic" look, as far as I can tell. Nice stuff.



My Klasse kit came with a sponge applicator for the AIO, and a terry applicator for the SG; I can't see where that matters, does anyone else? I don't care for terry applicators, I might use a Meg's.





Tom
 
Try the souveran over 2-3 coats of SG. I have never had a problem removing AIO. Did you dampen the applicator with a QD so it spreads thinner. I have had good luck applying the AIO with a white pad on my PC and removing with a microfiber damp with Final Detail, followed by a dry one. FOr stubborn spots use more Final Detail.
 
Done, thanks for all the tips. 2 coats AIO, 2 coats SG. I used the Sonus QD, I figure it's made to compliment the Klasse. Yup, I dampened the applicator, what I think I did was left it on a bit too long. Whatever, it came off.



It's a much wetter shine, for a synthetic, than I thought it was going to be. I was expecting a #20 look or a Zaino look, very reflective, but on the "dry" side. Klasse isn't carnuba, but it's very attractive. I'll drive it to work tomorrow so I can take pictures in the sun.



2wheelsx2, can you put #7 over the Klasse? That would be awesome! I'll do that, if it doesn't undo all my work!





Tom
 
Mosca, you should give at least 12 hours between coats of SG (24 hrs is recommended). I find it actually looks better the next day after it has cured some. Also, do you like the Sonus QD? Is it comparable to Meg's Final Detail in that there is no wax in it?
 
Yeah, it's the #20 syndrome; I try to do 2 coats of any synthetic, to assure complete coverage.



Should I leave it in the garage, and do it again tomorrow after work, or drive it to work, then re-wash it and SG? IOW, is it OK to wash between coats?



The Sonus QD is an acrylic QD. There's no wax. This is the first time I've used it. It seems pretty nice, it is wet and slick and smells nice.



Tom
 
I don't know of any car washes that are safe between coats of SG if you have to drive it. I opted to rinse with water and QD and wipe down with microfiber. As long as nothing with wax gets in between coats you'll be fine. Don't worry about missing spots, you would be surprised how much will spread. If you try using SG on a side or back window, you will see how much product is spread that you can't see on your paint. Less is always better with synthetics. You are gonna love Klasse after the second and third coats and especially after a topcoat of carnauba.
 
Tom, I put #7 on top of 2XSG and then topped it with Platinum. Still beading like crazy today, and it's been 2 months. Give it a go, I think you'll like it.



I've washed and even clayed between layers of SG. I don't think the carwash can harm it, after 24 hours. And I have never had any bonding issues, as long as I didn't wax in between.



My biggest problem is that I have so many variations on different panels of each car that I can't remember which one is which, and sometimes have to start with AIO all over! :o
 
I took pics, I'll post them this eve.



In the sunlight: Klasse is very unforgiving. My car is a '97, and it wasn't well cared for for a number of years. And there is some micro marring from the AIO/SG application. I'll 7 it this eve, and Souv it.





Tom
 
Hey Tom,



The AIO and SG didn't do much for ya as far as swirl hiding? It sounds like you're talking about them adding marring and swirls?! Was this after the SG? How about just with the AIO on it? Thoughts on that?



Just out of curiosity, what combo has been your best for producing a swirl free finish?



I've also noticed you have the S100 now as well as the Souv. I'm a huge S100 fan, but haven't tried the Souv. yet. Any comparison for the two? Price non-factor.



Thanks



Jared
 
Hey, Jared!



The added micros are from my process; an insect on the applicator? Dust particle? Remnant of the DACP or IP? They're minor, but there. This is after the SG. I couldn't see them in the garage at night, only in the direct sunlight this morning, and they are consistent with the application strokes. NBD, I know how to remove them, but they're there.



The more permanent stuff, the acid rain marks and pores, and the true scratches, are more visible. They shine like a sonofagun, but they are more visible. It's one of those things where I'm looking for them, y'know?



My best process for as swirl free as I can get is DACP and cutting pad, IP and polishing pad, FP and soft polishing pad. After that, its, how few swirls can I introduce by waxing? I have a theory that Meg's #7 not only uses its oils to fill somewhat, but also to lubricate the surface and help induce fewer swirls. My most swirl-free final product is the Meguiar's 7/20/26, then Souveran.



I bought the S100 yesterday, but haven't tried it yet. One thing, the Souveran is more refined carnuba than the S100; the Souveran is white carnuba, the S100 is yellow carnuba (like #26). But, if they look the same I won't care about that.





Tom
 
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