Park under tree...suggestion

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evan631

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Well this is my situation. I am very new to this level of detailing...normally i just put a coat of wax on the car once a year. But this time i want to try bigger and better things.



I recently purchased an Acura TSX, carbon gray. Unfortunately the only place i can park it is under a tree which produces these tiny little yellow flowers, and tons of pollen.



What do you suggest i use for detailing. I am leaning towards the twins (Klasse AIO, and the glaze), along with a QD - looking at Sonus.



Is this a good combo for hand application...no machine. Any other suggestions what i should use. Keep in mind I am new to this...so the easier the better.



Additionally, i would be washing probably once a week.



Much appreciated!!!!
 
I'd go with collinite 845 or possible Jeff's Werkstat Prime Acrylic and AJT. Well, you could also go with poliseal and OS or OCW.
 
Yes, there are plenty of possible combinations...I would tend to go with the "newer" version of AIO/SG which is Jeff's Werkstat (disclaimer: I have only used Klasse not JW) based on user reports. As jshillin also mentioned, the WOWA products preceded by their cleaner counterparts (PS/OS, ZAIO/CS, UPPP/UPGP) would also be a good choice. Of course 845 is also a great, easy to apply product.
 
Another vote for Collinite. IMO, even the best of sealants can't match the environmental protection of a good carnauba. Collinite will give you outstanding protection from all the nasties that fall from that tree, and it'll last a long time, although I think I'd apply it at least monthly during the summer while you are parking under that tree.



Another bonus for Collinite: it's cheap!
 
I park outside and have to deal with tree jizz regularly. Collinite is an excellent suggestion, i use it for winter protection. Should last a long time, even under that tree. I use Duragloss 105 in the summer. Anything that is super slick will do the job.



Frankly, if you park outside and get frequent light dusting, a california car duster or the like will save you a lot of headache and won't mar your paint if used properly. Just know that anything more than a light dusting requires a bath.
 
Doing a little research I found this about Collinite 845 on Autogeeks:



This is a true wax with no cleaning properties. For the best results, use Collinite Sapphire PreWax Cleaner before applying #845. * Sapphire PreWax Cleaner is for enamel, lacquer and single stage finishes. For clear coat paint use Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion.



I do want to use a cleaner before hand, but i don't know if i need the Sapphire cleaner or the Pinnicle. See above. Once again the car is an '08 Acura with factory paint. Not sure if it is Clear coat or enamel, lacquer.



Thanks again!!!!!!
 
I would try 1-2 coats of Collinite 885, which is their most durable wax. I have used it for years and it lasts almost an entire year; that is with it parked outside all day - no garage. Additionally, the 885 (paste fleetwax) is cheaper than the ones made specifically for the car. The only difference is the 885 has more carnauba than the car specific 476 and 915. The car waxes were formulated for easier application and are softer, per collinite customer service. I can't speak to the shine difference since I only use 885. It isn't simple to put on, but not hard either. I can do a small Mazda 3 or BMW 3 series in about 30 minutes by myself including all the little spots. It goes on fine and a little goes a long way. One can should do 20+ cars no problem. Just make sure to wipe it off before it dries, and put it on thin or you will be buffing all day. I will post some pics in the future showing water still beading after 8 months of Boston weather.
 
Doing a little research I found this about Collinite 845 on Autogeeks:



This is a true wax with no cleaning properties. For the best results, use Collinite Sapphire PreWax Cleaner before applying #845. * Sapphire PreWax Cleaner is for enamel, lacquer and single stage finishes. For clear coat paint use Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion.



I do want to use a cleaner before hand, but i don't know if i need the Sapphire cleaner or the Pinnicle. See above. Once again the car is an '08 Acura with factory paint. Not sure if it is Clear coat or enamel, lacquer.



Thanks again!!!!!!
 
Use any cleaner of your choice - Klasse AIO, Pinnacle, Optimum Poli-seal, etc.



The Sapphire is not recommended for finishes made after 1990 or so, but I've heard anecdotal reports that it won't harm clearcoats. I wouldn't try it on my car though.
 
evan631 said:
Doing a little research I found this about Collinite 845 on Autogeeks:



This is a true wax with no cleaning properties. For the best results, use Collinite Sapphire PreWax Cleaner before applying #845. * Sapphire PreWax Cleaner is for enamel, lacquer and single stage finishes. For clear coat paint use Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion.



I do want to use a cleaner before hand, but i don't know if i need the Sapphire cleaner or the Pinnicle. See above. Once again the car is an '08 Acura with factory paint. Not sure if it is Clear coat or enamel, lacquer.



Thanks again!!!!!!
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They're just trying to upsell more products. It is completely unnecessary to do anything other than wash (and clay, if needed) before applying the Collinite.
 
That's what i was thinking...upselling!!!! Anyone else agree.



It is a relatively new car (picked it up in late Jan.) So a pre wax cleaning might not be all that necessary.
 
MY DECISION>>>>



Jeff Werkstat's AIO along with the Collintie 845 possibly the 885. I am going with the AIO to remove some of the imperfections that are in the paint now, plus some really minor swirls.



The collinite seems like it will make for some great protection and barrier against the elements.



Let me know what you think.



YOu guys have been a tremendous help.
 
I think that's a great idea. If you've had the car since January and it's had nothing on it you definitely want to use some sort of cleaner, the JW Prime should be a good choice.



Not to argue with sprzesmi, and I haven't gone back and researched threads on this, but I thought that the 885, the 476S, and the 915 were all the same wax just targeted at different markets. For ease of use, you can't beat the 845, it just melts into the paint, but it gives up a little in durability to the pastes.



The other thing you could do since you are ordering from JW is to go with one of their LSP's and if that isn't satisfactory then move to a Collinite wax.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I think that's a great idea. If you've had the car since January and it's had nothing on it you definitely want to use some sort of cleaner, the JW Prime should be a good choice.



Not to argue with sprzesmi, and I haven't gone back and researched threads on this, but I thought that the 885, the 476S, and the 915 were all the same wax just targeted at different markets. For ease of use, you can't beat the 845, it just melts into the paint, but it gives up a little in durability to the pastes.



The other thing you could do since you are ordering from JW is to go with one of their LSP's and if that isn't satisfactory then move to a Collinite wax.
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I thought so too, but didn't want to say anything cause I can't find the threads that talked about it, either.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
...........but I thought that the 885, the 476S, and the 915 were all the same wax just targeted at different markets.........
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I called Collinite 2 or 3 years ago and the rep told me 476 was their most durable wax, and it was the same as 885. I can't remember if their was a slight difference in 915 or not, but the rep was pretty adamant that when *they* wanted the most durable wax they used 476/885. 885 actually works out to be a bit cheaper per oz than 476, but the 476 tin has a larger opening making it a bit easier to get pads into.
 
I'm pretty sure Accumulator told us that they told him 915 was the same as 476S and they just marketed it as a more expensive product because they could, but they told him not to waste his money and to buy the 476S.



EDIT: Of course, it also seems to me that different members have posted different quotes from Collinite depending on who was giving the info.



EDIT #2: Here's one thread: http://www.autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/47488-collinite-476s-vs-915-a.html
 
If the tree's on your property, cut it down.



If the tree's on somebody else's property, get a car cover from Acura. ;)



Besides that, routine cleaning is the key. Personally, I clay bar my car every month and apply a new coat of wax, and this does the trick for me, since I have a long commute and am forced to park oustide during the day.
 
Below is the email I got from Collinite 885 asking about machine application, and if it was still the most durable. I can't find a previous email from years ago where they said the car waxes are a little softer for easier application. It looks like 885 is still the most durable, and it is pretty cheap. Again, can't speak to gloss because it is the only one I have used.



Dear Steve:



Thanks for your email. I would apply the wax by hand in small sections at a time and then remove it using the buffer when you see the wax start to dry or come to a haze.

The #885 is our most durable wax.



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Customer Service
 
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