pakshak microfiber towels

sacdetailing said:
how do you wash them after using them after polishing? so they would be good to be used again.



thanks.
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I get the best results with either "Microfiber Detergents" or Dawn, with HOT water and multiple rinses. Others claim to do fine with regular shampoos, but those don't work nearly as well for me.
 
An APC works well as a pre-rinse. I usually rinse mine with an APC then sit them in a bucket with car wash soap dilution (no wash & wax type soap!) then rinse prior to the laundry.



I also use a touch of vinegar in the rinse cycle. Helps with residue.



I've tried Micro-Restore and didn't notice any difference between that and my method besides the added cost of the M-R.
 
Use only cold water (or luke warm) when washing microfibers !!! I've had the fibers in the towels actually melt and bond together (for example, 4 fibers bonding together to make 1 big one) from using hot water in the washing machine. Same goes for the dryer, LOW temp dry only, or better yet, air fluf until dry.



And as stated already, use MF specific detergent (it's fairly cheap and lasts a long time).
 
WAS said:
Use only cold water (or luke warm) when washing microfibers !!! I've had the fibers in the towels actually melt and bond together (for example, 4 fibers bonding together to make 1 big one) from using hot water in the washing machine. Same goes for the dryer, LOW temp dry only, or better yet, air fluf until dry.



And as stated already, use MF specific detergent (it's fairly cheap and lasts a long time).
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I've washed hundreds if not thousands of mf in hot water and no bonding of fibers. I've even boiled them with no bad effects. Quit posting such bad information.
 
This is part of a write-up I've made for myself through researching here and other places for starting my own detailing business.

Hope this helps.



Maintaining Products

Microfiber

Wash using a liquid detergent on COLD.

If needing a detergent booster, 1 cup of OxyClean (powder form is fine, it dissolves instantly).

While in the rinse cycle, pour a cup of distilled white vinegar to maintain the towels “fluff” if basic methods aren’t working.

Dry using low-medium heat.
 
Legacy99 said:
I've washed hundreds if not thousands of mf in hot water ..[with no problems]....
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Same here. I get the best results by using my HE washer's "Sanitary" cycle, which gets the water quite hot.



Some of my MFs even came with instructions to boil them before the first use (not that I bothered to do it).
 
Legacy99 said:
I've washed hundreds if not thousands of mf in hot water and no bonding of fibers. I've even boiled them with no bad effects. Quit posting such bad information.
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Maybe you should look at the post made just after yours, you probably want to tell DavidK to quit posting such bad information too ? :rolleyes:



Hey, I've been through an automatic brush car wash tunnel before and didn't get any swirls, so they must be perfectly fine to use ! :rolleyes:



Manufacture instructions are to wash in the coolest water possible, then tumble dry on low or air dry. If you choose to do different and you've been lucky thus far, go ahead, I've had negative effects from using too much heat on MFs.
 
WAS said:
Maybe you should look at the post made just after yours, you probably want to tell DavidK to quit posting such bad information too ? :rolleyes:



Hey, I've been through an automatic brush car wash tunnel before and didn't get any swirls, so they must be perfectly fine to use ! :rolleyes:



Manufacture instructions are to wash in the coolest water possible, then tumble dry on low or air dry. If you choose to do different and you've been lucky thus far, go ahead, I've had negative effects from using too much heat on MFs.
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So does DavidK say that if you wash in hot water the fibers will melt and fuse toghether? I have washed the cheapo 50 cent towels to the plush $7.00 towels in boiling hot water and never had any melt on me yet. Lucky I'm not, it's a fact that hot water will not harm MF towels. Maybe your towels are not micro fiber!!!
 
Legacy99 said:
So does DavidK say that if you wash in hot water the fibers will melt and fuse toghether? I have washed the cheapo 50 cent towels to the plush $7.00 towels in boiling hot water and never had any melt on me yet. Lucky I'm not, it's a fact that hot water will not harm MF towels. Maybe your towels are not micro fiber!!!
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I didn't say they WILL melt and fuse together, I said that it's happened to me. I question why you're boiling MFs to begin with... Also, it's not a fact that hot water won't harm MFs, it's YOUR opinion that it won't. I've personally experienced the opposite, and wouldn't want anyone else to ruin their MFs.
 
WAS said:
I didn't say they WILL melt and fuse together, I said that it's happened to me. I question why you're boiling MFs to begin with... Also, it's not a fact that hot water won't harm MFs, it's YOUR opinion that it won't. I've personally experienced the opposite, and wouldn't want anyone else to ruin their MFs.
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Your words: "I've had the fibers in the towels actually melt and bond together". It is a fact that hot water will not melt the fibers not just my opinion. Like I said maybe you don't have the 80/20 or 70/30 mf's like most of us have. Show me a picture of your mf towel that the fibers melted and fused together.
 
I've always washed with hot water and occasional boiled a few and have never seen any side effects or melted fibers with cheap and premium towels. The materials used to make microfibers(polyester and polyamide) have melting points at around 250 C (480ish F.) Water heaters dont even make water that hot. I've also never had any problems drying on high heat aside from having static build up.
 
I've washed my MFs in hot water too. Been doing so for years and never had a problem. It's the hot cycle in the dryer that will cause you problems.
 
Jumpingbean said:
.. It's the hot cycle in the dryer that will cause you problems.
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Even then, it depends on the dryer. I've accidentally dried mine on "high" a few times :o and fortunately it didn't do any damage. Neither of my dryers come close to "melt MF" temps even on their hottest settings.
 
WAS said:
I... Also, it's not a fact that hot water won't harm MFs, it's YOUR opinion that it won't..
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I worry that this'll come across more :argue than I intend, but here goes my take on it anyhow.....



The objectively determinable fact of it is the melting/damage point of the MF relative to the temp of the water. If the water isn't hot enough to "hurt" the MF then there won't be any problem.
 
Accumulator said:
Even then, it depends on the dryer. I've accidentally dried mine on "high" a few times :o and fortunately it didn't do any damage. Neither of my dryers come close to "melt MF" temps even on their hottest settings.
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Same here Accumulator, I've dried on hi accidentally with no problems. I think WAS is way off base.
 
Legacy99 said:
Your words: "I've had the fibers in the towels actually melt and bond together". It is a fact that hot water will not melt the fibers not just my opinion. Like I said maybe you don't have the 80/20 or 70/30 mf's like most of us have. Show me a picture of your mf towel that the fibers melted and fused together.
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Yeah, those are my words. Did I state that MFs WILL melt and fuse together EVERY SINGLE time ? Maybe you should re-read what I said, or perhaps use a dictionary ? What I said was: It has happened to me that MFs have melted.



OK, so you've now stated that it's a complete fact that MFs will not melt. Manufacture instructions say to use the coolest water possible. Care to show us where it states that it's OK to boil them ? ...Again, it is YOUR opinion that extremely hot water (or any liquid for that matter) won't harm an MF. Good for you, you've been lucky in the washing machine (I was too on many occasions before my melting experience), I'm simply suggesting that anyone who's concerned about it, follow the manufacture's instructions (instead of someone who's "never had an issue before").



Legacy99 said:
Same here Accumulator, I've dried on hi accidentally with no problems. I think WAS is way off base.
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I'm sure that anyone who's melted their MFs in the dryer is way off base too, huh ? :rolleyes: You know, a person I used to work with used to go out every Friday night to the bar, have several drinks (5+) and then drive home, obviously past the legal blood alcohol limit. In the two years that I worked with him, he never got caught. Guess since he's never had problems with the law, it must be OK to do, right ? ...Sounds pretty silly in that scenario too doesn't it....
 
WAS said:
Yeah, those are my words. Did I state that MFs WILL melt and fuse together EVERY SINGLE time ? Maybe you should re-read what I said, or perhaps use a dictionary ? What I said was: It has happened to me that MFs have melted.



OK, so you've now stated that it's a complete fact that MFs will not melt. Manufacture instructions say to use the coolest water possible. Care to show us where it states that it's OK to boil them ? ...Again, it is YOUR opinion that extremely hot water (or any liquid for that matter) won't harm an MF. Good for you, you've been lucky in the washing machine (I was too on many occasions before my melting experience), I'm simply suggesting that anyone who's concerned about it, follow the manufacture's instructions (instead of someone who's "never had an issue before").





I'm sure that anyone who's melted their MFs in the dryer is way off base too, huh ? :rolleyes: You know, a person I used to work with used to go out every Friday night to the bar, have several drinks (5+) and then drive home, obviously past the legal blood alcohol limit. In the two years that I worked with him, he never got caught. Guess since he's never had problems with the law, it must be OK to do, right ? ...Sounds pretty silly in that scenario too doesn't it....
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Washing your MF in hot water will melt the fibers. That's the biggest bull sh$$t that I have ever heard.:har:
 
I wasn't saying exactly why you shouldn't wash with hot water, I didn't note that down as to why (I'll look into it later) but it was just the advice that I had gathered from people who I would consider reputable on this and other forums for pro detailing.

If I find a specific answer as to why you shouldn't wash in hot water or why cold is better ... whatever the reason, I'll post it up :)
 
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