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I have compared Autoglym with Zaino. Zaino is better but not by a huge amount but requires more work. Of course Zaino can be layered many many times whereas Autoglym is more limited.



For comparison I did one door with Z and the another with A, the front wing was done with One Grand glaze & Blitz. No one came up to me to ask why different parts of the car had greater or less shine. The wax route had a greater difference than Z or A.



Autoglym can stain but is easily removed with the bumper cleaner - sorry I cannot think of its real name.



As for applications, I feel the longer you leave both Resin and Gloss the better. Gloss really needs a minimum of one hour. CMA have reported you can add the Gloss directly over un-buffed Resin, although I have not tried this, it could save a bit of time. Autoglym in line with other sealants can be topped with wax. I think you should be able to get about 6 months worth of protection from the Autoglym 'twins' especially if layers are used.



For the other Brits here, I have been playing with Comma products - not bad at all, nice and cheap as well.



Steven
 
Lowejackson said:
For the other Brits here, I have been playing with Comma products - not bad at all, nice and cheap as well.



Steven
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I was mulling over them yesterday in Halfords - decided to wait until I had chance to play with the Grojet I have on order, but thats interesting to know
 
I've used Autoglym before but have since switched to Meguiar's.



Super Resin is quite good and long lasting. Personally, i find extra gloss to reduce the shine of super resin slightly but makes it look more wet and water beading.



Super resin will stain trim. Extra gloss don't. Autoglym Bumper Care will clean out the stain but i still think the stain is bad on the trim. I suspect super resin has very strong solvent in it. Had a friend who accidently spill super resin on his car without shaking the bottle first. His paint was etched by that stuff.
 
myauto said:
I've used Autoglym before but have since switched to Meguiar's.
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Any particular reason for the switch? Is this switch to Meg #20? If so, what differences in look have you noticed?
 
Main reason is because i want to try something else and Mequiar's is highly regarded here. Second reason is Mequiar's has a wider product range. In terms of result, Autoglym is not too bad but with Mequiar's, i try many many different products (#9, #7, Gold Class, #26, #20, #81, #82, etc ....)
 
The consumer line of Autoglym is quite small however the pro and bodyshop ranges are far larger. Over the last few years, I have tried many different products but when I return to Autoglym I do not feel cheated. Yes, there are specific products which are better at fixing certain problems but for a 2 step range, I really like the Resin & Gloss. I do however maintain the shampoo is poor compared to others and I rarely use the vinyl cleaner these days.
 
When using Autoglym products, which one you use for surface prep? I find that Autoglym Paint Renovator is too harsh for the paint, while Autoglym doesn't produce clay bars, and Super Resin Polish is too mild to remove stubborn bonded contaminants.
 
just use another make of clay bar, i too find Autoglym Paint Renovator too harsh, try scratch or GS27, they are a lot milder.
 
Interestingly, Autoglym do sell a clay bar but I have only seen it for sale in Asia. The Renovator is strong stuff and only for heavy oxidation. I use 3M, easy to buy and a great product.
 
hi there guys saw at last some uk detailers.your use of autoglym products is true brits you go for old reliable.you should try Zymol even on the cleaner wax u will see a vast inprovement on the depth of shine of your paint also would be worth a try a product called mothers .i have been detailing cars bikes and helicopters for the last 17 years and nothing has impressed me more than these to products .i know zymol is expensive but you do get one hell of a shine from it . hope this has stirred the pot but all the bull said about autoglym is all hype you want a deep wet look shine try the above :cool:
 
Hi whitevanman, i dont use autoglym for the shine but for the protection. Although its shine is very good i feel. Zymol is not my cup of tea, over priced and over hyped, i find their advertising booklet a good laugh though, full of complete BS. You shouild look at the zymol british websitr, that guy grant gives the most one sided, miss informed answers to any question posted. If you want the best shine, after the paints been prepped, try P21s, its the best wax we at the TVR club have used and that includes the expensive zymol waxes. And just to let you know, i won the porsche National watercooled class a few years ago with autoglym, so it can't be that bad!
 
I am with Mark, I use Autoglym for protection and add wax for shine. Works well for me. The P21S wax is a great wax.



What kind of stuff is used for cleaning helicopters? Anyone tried Peek metal polish, seems to work well on hard plastics and perspex



Steven
 
Hi steven, that peek polish...has it got abrasives in it? should give it a go as my car is glassfibre although anything that they say can polish metal must have some serious bite to it? not sure.
 
Mark, no abrasives, some kind of chemical cleaner, it is quite a mild cleaner. It is no where near as strong as the normal metal cleaners I use.
 
:cool: hi there mark,thought the comments about autoglym would make you guys bite .i say well done to you winning your concours event with autoglym.But a fellow detailer who i know told me that the way the judging of these events goes is how can i say questionable.when a man can spend 10 minutes talking to someone who had nothing to do with the car in question ,when he should have been looking at the car all the time he had his back to the car in question.then said the car was not up to standard which i find hard to believe he had eyes in the back of his head.i dont class autoglym events with much creditable standards.this detailer has people around europe sending there cars to him to be detailed so his standard of detailing a car is what i call very high.

well the zymol hand book is what i would call a good laugh but hey this has been written by an american lol .

the quotes by Grant on the web site are from a guy reading the hand book which is quite obvious but come to think of it 90% of people in the motor trade read from the hand book.to find someone selling a detailing product and is also detailing other peoples cars as a job is even rarer.Yes the product is expensive no dening that but it does the job of giving one hell of a shine.i have also found that Mothers is as good as if not better and for the price compared to zymol and all the other products on the market i think pretty damn good.

what do i use on the helicopter well the one you see on the web site for zymol which is one of my customers i used zymol agl wax.he has a new helicopter now and will be looking to do that with a mixture of zymol and mothers to compare the shine

hope this answers some of your querys
 
As said above s100/p21s or meguiars pro range products will prep piant than over priced Zymol, ( which yes i was coned and have tried). All my paint prep is done by megiuars ( no 9, swirl free, no 7 of hand polish) and p21s. Followed by autoglym resin, it gives a nice look and shine, and then topped with a wax of my choice ( blitz, P21s/s100 or megs 26). I have one my class twice this year. Zymol results are not as good and cost £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£Ã‚£s more.
 
Hi whitevanman, the concours i won was a the porsche National club even not a autoglym event, and has nothing to do with the autoglym run concours that are for classic cars. As for the judges, well i would say with the ferrari club, the porsche club has some of the finest knowledgeable judges around. Indeed Zymol now sponsor the event. members of the porsche club take concours very seriously and you would be hard pressed to find any concours coming up to their standard of prep. A detailed car and a concours car are very different animals indeed. As for zymol, well you have your favourites and thats fine by me, but we all know there are the same/better products out there at a 5th of the price......i mean they want £30 for a bucket! come on get real.
 
:rolleyes: but its a very nice bucket which also works well as a caddey of your products.

Like all companys the small bits which you can get else where will allways charge that bit more .as people will order to have it all together .and you should also remember the tub of wax will last most people around 5 years if used properly .so the cost becomes cheap in the long run.:xyxthumbs
 
Going back to the Autoglym super resin. I used to use this on my old Pug 205 (by the way I have seen Richs car a few times at the PSOOC and it is very good and personally I cannot see how spending $$$$$ on Zymol would enhance it) which was black. My main problem was dust and trim stain. Was I applying too thick ?

I now use 3MIHG with Raceglaze - www.raceglaze.co.uk (UK comapny different to US)carnauba. This gives good results with next to no dust albeit on a red BMW.



Also nice to see more UK folk about.



Steve
 
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