Other options instead of Megs #83

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LDPaul

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Sorry if this has been discussed, but I am working a lot and need an answer. What other products work the same as #83? I seem to be using #83 a lot and would like other options available instead of the same thing all the time.



Also what is the main difference between a polish and a glaze? I understand that the polish usually has some sort of particles in it to assist in removing minor imperfections, but glaze is more of a shine enhancer.



Please correct me if I am wrong or confused.:nixweiss



Thanks
 
I don't blame you for being confused about the polish/glaze thing. Different companies (and people) use the terms differently. Generally, yeah, polishes *as I use the term* contain abrasive particles that level paint mechanically. Glazes *as I use the term* are generally nonabrasive and do not contain silicon or "wax"; they are bodyshop/fresh paint- safe.



But Meg's #80 Speed Glaze is an abrasive that's OK for use on fresh paint. 3M's PI-III Machine Glaze is also an abrasive. Klasse Sealant Glaze is not what *I* would call a glaze at all; it'll mess up fresh paint. Confusing, huh?



I try not to let the terminology become a big deal but rather deal with each product individually. If you don't want to burden yourself learning about all the different products, just use a few that do what you expect them to do.



I don't use #83, but rather 3M PI-IIIRC (05933), which has recently been discontinued. I have complete confidence that the replacement product (PI-3000 I believe, but I don't know the pn yet) will work fine, but the 05933 is still around. Other alternatives are 1Z Ultra/Extra (more abrasive) and 1Z PP (maybe bit less abrasive).
 
ssr2 has about the same level of cut as #83 (DACP Right?) that is a poorboys product. Of all the different polishes, those are the 2 that i use the most. actually i use 2.5 because it is a little stronger, but whatever. Both polishes are medium cut. Oh, menzerna FP and IF are real good too.







the difference between a polish and a glaze is that a polish is a combination of oils and abrasive particles made to remove a fine layer of paint exposing a fresh surface, and effectively cutting down on imperfections. A glaze on the other hand is a combination of (in most cases) fillers, oils, and sometimes hints of polymer protectants. Glazes are made to refresh the paint, and enhance gloss (thats what the oils are for), and it also hides minor imperfections in the process (the fillers). Glazes should most always be followed with some sort of paint protection (unless of course it is a show car, then i like to just layer the glaze, and leave it without wax (sometimes).
 
Poorboy's SSR2.5 works very well, another option is Optimum Polish. I got a sample from Anthony Orosco and you can change its agressiveness by changing the pad. Using it with a Propel lite cut pad on my own car, it didn't leave any marring at all, where DACP would have.
 
This is great information and Thanks! I knew I was right on the polish and glaze, but labels are not always right. I have the 3M PI-IIIRC, but a little too expensive for my taste.



Scott/tpgrs, I will have to try Poorboy's SSR2.5 and Optimum Polish.



Thanks everyone for the quick input!
 
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