Optimum Polish Reformulated

Anthony Orosco said:
It is also slightly more aggressive at start but finishes out just as fine as the old formula.





Why would you want OP any more agressive than it already is? That would blur the lines between the compound and polish even further, I would think David would want a less agressive polish as to make the OC stand out a bit more.
 
RAG said:
Faster cutting action huh? So David added more abrasives to give it a bit more bite? People must have been asking for more aggressiveness...but I wasn't aware of it. The OC is what needed more bite - I'd like to see OC a little more between OP and OHP. While I'm at it, I'd like to see Optimum come out with a truely heavy compound (heavier than OHC for sure)...if it can be done while retaining the beatiful "working" properties of the polish line.



I see alot of people mixing Hi-Temp Extreme cut with OP...... anyone done this? what did you use it for, and what ratios?
 
Mach30SiR said:
I see alot of people mixing Hi-Temp Extreme cut with OP...... anyone done this? what did you use it for, and what ratios?



You can use this mix for heavy swirls/oxidation and 50/50 would be the ratio. Search G35stilez for his click and brags and you will see some amazing work done with it.
 
RAG said:
Faster cutting action huh? So David added more abrasives to give it a bit more bite? People must have been asking for more aggressiveness...but I wasn't aware of it. The OC is what needed more bite - I'd like to see OC a little more between OP and OHP. While I'm at it, I'd like to see Optimum come out with a truely heavy compound (heavier than OHC for sure)...if it can be done while retaining the beatiful "working" properties of the polish line.



I also agree with that; if the new OP is better, that's great, but as far as "bite" goes, it's the OC and OHC that need a few more teeth. Glad to hear the OP "clumping" problem is being fixed, though.
 
Joshua312 said:
You can use this mix for heavy swirls/oxidation and 50/50 would be the ratio. Search G35stilez for his click and brags and you will see some amazing work done with it.



Thanks...any one in perticular? hes got 160ish threats started in that forum :(
 
gbackus said:
Why would you want OP any more agressive than it already is? That would blur the lines between the compound and polish even further, I would think David would want a less agressive polish as to make the OC stand out a bit more.



It is now designed to give a faster cut as you begin polishing, that's all. It does not stay abrasive longer, just a faster initial cut.



A beta "something new" polish will be in mine and Rons eager hands soon :getdown



Anthony
 
I have the old OP and it never clumped on me? I agree the spout id pretty bad, but other than that I love Optimum. I will agree that the OC needs some more bite.
 
If the polish needed some additional kick, why not just add some compound to it when needed? And vice vers, you could add some polish to the compound to tame it a tad.....Im always playing with product mixtures....
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
If the polish needed some additional kick, why not just add some compound to it when needed? And vice vers, you could add some polish to the compound to tame it a tad.....Im always playing with product mixtures....



Yeah, I actually have two aditional bottles pre-mixed with OP/OC and OC/OHC respectively...but most people (not on this forum) don't think to do this. And my guess is they take the OC and wonder why it isn't taking swirls out...so I do think it would be wise to bump up OC and OHC along with the recent OP increase, but what do I know. :nixweiss
 
Some made a chart compariing the aggressivness of different compounds and polishes, but didnt have any info for the Optmium. How does OP and OC compare to Meg. or Poorboys? could someone rank the following by aggressivness.

OP w/ orange cutting

OP w/ yellow cutting

OC w/ white polishing

OC w/ orange cutting



Im going to use Optimum for the first time on a BMW with delear installed buffertrails so any advice using it would be great full.
 
WIll the Hyper Polish change? HP Has quite some cut, but doesn't haze at all. If we have had Issues with the old OP, will David accept the bottles in exchange for the newer formula?
 
Beason said:
Some made a chart compariing the aggressivness of different compounds and polishes, but didnt have any info for the Optmium. How does OP and OC compare to Meg. or Poorboys? could someone rank the following by aggressivness.

OP w/ orange cutting

OP w/ yellow cutting

OC w/ white polishing

OC w/ orange cutting



Im going to use Optimum for the first time on a BMW with delear installed buffertrails so any advice using it would be great full.



You should be able to clear up most swirls you encounter with OCP and an orange pad at 1400 rpm's.



To then clean up that step use OCP again and a polishing pad, reduce rpm's to 1200-1100.



If the paint is dark in color you may need to perform one last finishing step with a finishing pad, OCP and rpm's at 1000.



The key to using Optimum (OCP, OC, OHC) is to use slightly less than you would your other polishes and to also work it longer. Don't look for OCP to break down and dust because you'll be there a very long time.



Instead, if you have good lighting, you should be able to see the paint being corrected as you polish. Stop after a few minutes then wipe off some residue, if it looks corrected then continue on to the next area....don't bother wiping off the residue as you will just buff right over that residue with your next step. If it doesn't appear to be corrected then add another drop to that area and continue.



If it appears that the OCP will not touch your swirls/marring then try the OHC and a polishing pad and if that doesn't seem to work then try an orange pad, working your way up to wool if need be.



Hope that helps,

Anthony
 
SilvaBimma said:
WIll the Hyper Polish change? HP Has quite some cut, but doesn't haze at all. If we have had Issues with the old OP, will David accept the bottles in exchange for the newer formula?



I know of no changes coming to the Hyper at the moment and as far as a replacement bottle, you'll need to contact David with that concern.



The old OCP formula, while having some clumps, still works just fine. I have 2 bottles of clump stuff left but what I do is either blend it up OR I remove the pouring spout altogether which leaves me with a nice large hole from which I carefully pour out what I need.



Just make sure you fuly cover that hole when shaking :eek:



Anthony
 
That's funny, I keep two pre-made 8oz bottles of OC/OP and OHC/OC with me too; I actually reach for OC/OP more often then either of the two solo. I was using it just today in the sun actually. I've never had an issue with mine seperating or being clumpy, but it sounds like the new formula will just add to an already good product.
 
I have mixed OC with OHC into one bottle. On most paints that I have used it on, OHC with a yellow foam cutting pad finishes off perfect.



Placing an order for all 3 tomorrow am. Running out!
 
Bioman said:
Does the new OP have more cut than FPII? Which one finishes better?



Yes it does, even the old formula had more cutting power than FPII. On a black car with the same pad and rpm's FPII would finish out slightly finer but to an untrained eye they may not notice the difference.



Anthony
 
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