optimum polish Question

[Accumulator]

Wonder why the OP doesn't work as well for me as it does for others :nixweiss User-error I suppose :think: but I'll admit I'm not one for struggling to master a product when I have something else that works for me. Never tried it with a finishing pad though, wouldn't have thought of that given its initial bite.

 

[kaval]

I recently did an 06 750i with optimum products. I found that OP did pretty much nothing for me and I had to go with OC + yellow pad, then follow up with OP + white pad to get out the hazing. If I could do it again, I would buy OHC.

 

[natural320]

uh-oh...I'm getting worried again! and the b--ch of it all is that I am going to be just anxiously waiting until the rain passes through here to try it out...



it is amazing how everyone has difference experiences with the same product though. is everyone using the"new" formula of the OP? I wonder if that makes that big of a difference...

 

[Accumulator]

uh-oh...it is amazing how everyone has difference experiences with the same product though. is everyone using the"new" formula of the OP? I wonder if that makes that big of a difference...

Well, everybody has their favorites and their also-rans, just gotta find stuff that works for you and the only way to do that is to try things.



And yeah, my experiences were with the new OP.

 

[Brian_Brice]

I've had OP finish down LSP ready using an orange cutting pad.

Scott-



was that on clear like a beamer? i did a test sample on a guys early 90's model il and boy was it a pita. i think the required process (for me at least) would have easily required a more aggressive pad than orange, and a compound multiple times iirc.





are the newer bmws sprayed with the same paint as older ones?

 

[natural320]

Scott-



was that on clear like a beamer? i did a test sample on a guys early 90's model il and boy was it a pita. i think the required process (for me at least) would have easily required a more aggressive pad than orange, and a compound multiple times iirc.





are the newer bmws sprayed with the same paint as older ones?

nice question...I know I'm curious now!

 

[BigAl3]

also, you can mix both OP & OC together. here's a response i got from David at Optimum....



You can mix Optimum Polish and Compound at a 50:50 ratio (or any ratio). Depending on your paint system, the blend can be a one step way to remove paint defects such as swirl marks and leave the finish ready for wax or sealant.

 

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

also, you can mix both OP & OC together. here's a response i got from David at Optimum....



You can mix Optimum Polish and Compound at a 50:50 ratio (or any ratio). Depending on your paint system, the blend can be a one step way to remove paint defects such as swirl marks and leave the finish ready for wax or sealant.

Now that my friend is a sweet bit of information...



I think this is what I will use on the hard GM CC I have booked next weekend!!!

 

[Accumulator]

..are the newer bmws sprayed with the same paint as older ones?

There seem to be some *huge* variations.



The clear on my '97 M3 is *HARD*, the rotary/orange/H-T EC take multiple passes at high speeds.



Some recent vintage BMWs are so soft that they seem to micromar whenever people touch them with most anything.



Then there's the hard '06 750 that kaval worked on...this *is* confusing!

 

[Ron Harris]

A BMW that was sprayed in the 80's is different then a BMW sprayed in the 90's. The new BMW's are using different paint depending on what continent it was mfg on.

Some body shop repaints are very hard after cured 100% some are soft.

I use the Optimum system so I don't have to carry 10 different products to correct paint just 3 different bottles of Optimum and a good assortment of pads for the rotary. But I detail for a living and not to impress people with my product collection of the over inflated price I paid for it.

 

[Brian_Brice]

There seem to be some *huge* variations.



The clear on my '97 M3 is *HARD*, the rotary/orange/H-T EC take multiple passes at high speeds.



Some recent vintage BMWs are so soft that they seem to micromar whenever people touch them with most anything.



Then there's the hard '06 750 that kaval worked on...this *is* confusing!

that's the reason i ask, i haven't worked on that many bmw's but thinking about the test sample i did on the one previously mentioned i would say im not interested unless he was willing to spend an aweful lot. then i see others correct with mild polish and pad combo's :nixweiss

 

[Accumulator]

that's the reason i ask, i haven't worked on that many bmw's but thinking about the test sample i did on the one previously mentioned i would say im not interested unless he was willing to spend an aweful lot.

It sounds to me like a job you should pass on, but that's just IMO based on the likelihood of both you and the customer ending up happy.



If he were merely wanting it "shined up" that'd be one thing, but if the goal would be relatively complete marring removal, it doesn't sound like something you'd enjoy doing for the money you'd be charging even if you did find a process that worked for you. Whenever either party is likely to be dissatisfied, I'd pass.



But then it's easy for *me* to turn down *somebody else's* prospective clients :lol

 

[Brian_Brice]

well he wasn't exactly a stranger customer anyways, i know him i was pretty much just doing a sample section for the heck of it. it would have taken forever and it would have been very grueling polishing and yes youre absolutely right, no thanks.



the thing was it didn't look that bad, just years of mild abuse. which is why i am curious about bmw's paint.

 

[Accumulator]

..the thing was it didn't look that bad, just years of mild abuse. which is why i am curious about bmw's paint.

Heh heh, my M3 didn't look all that bad to me, but when my good painter saw it (he knows paint a lot better than I do) he told me to wetsand it...with 1500 Now that I've gone through a huge quantity of H-T EC and a lot of time, well, I'd say he knew what he was talking about.