Optimum No Rinse Wash - first use review.

Thanks for the comments....



I have to reiterate how great ONR's QD mix (2 caps : 24 oz. distilled water) is...way cheaper and better than FK 146 or probably any QD out there (PB, CG, etc.). I just did a quick touch up and it was really easy and safe....finish was slick & glossy. Does everything a QD is suppose to do and more.
 
how many of you have to listen to the onr doubters. i kind of get tired explaining it and simply telling them if they are unpleased with the outcome im all ears.
 
euro said:
Thanks for the comments....



I have to reiterate how great ONR's QD mix (2 caps : 24 oz. distilled water) is...way cheaper and better than FK 146 or probably any QD out there (PB, CG, etc.). I just did a quick touch up and it was really easy and safe....finish was slick & glossy. Does everything a QD is suppose to do and more.
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Just from my experience, 146 is not really a subsitute for ONR. I wouldn't wash my car in 146 neither do I get the same results using ONR (QD strength) when left "as is". There are ingredients in 146 that simply aren't in ONR, I guess that's their trade secret but there's little doubt by seeing the finish and cleanliness of my paint after several days of rain and sun with 146 vs. ONR (QD strength). The 146 leaves it slicker, cleaner, longer hands down. At $25 for a gallon I don't think you can get a better deal for this level of quick detailing.



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don't dilute 146, it doesn't like this. I experimented with ONR and 146 at different dilutions and it was a no-go with 146. I had to dump out the spray bottle of diluted 146.

Must be something to do with antistatic ingredients.
 
ONR is a fantastic product. One of my customers was amazed by it and wanted to purchase it from me. Luckily I had about half the gallon and sold him a 32oz bottle of ONR. I don't think the smell is bad at all. Will be needing to purchase another gallon soon.



Why wouldn't you use it to clean glass? I use it to wipe whatever is on the glass to get it clean first, and at the end of the detail I clean it with Meguiar's NXT Glass Cleaner.
 
Padron said:
What are your methods for using ONR during the winter on Very Dirty (Road Grime, Salt, etc..) vehicles?



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I would go with the pesticide sprayer route. They come in 2 gallon sprayers at Lowes or Home Depot for $10-20. They have a nice amount of pressure--not too much to harm paint but way more than using hand spray bottle. Drop and ounce or two of ONR in there and just pump the handle. You can spray the whole car to loosen up the grime.

When its not so dirty, I like to take a sponge, dunk it in the ONR and hold it over each panel. This unloads enough water to soak the car in no time with only a couple of dunks.

I think the key is to pre-soakin the filthy car without touching it as much as possible.



I use many towels because I only make on long pass per side of the towel. With so many MF towels in my arsenal now I don't dunk the dirty towel in a rinse bucket amymore. I just get a fresh towel dunk it and continue fliping after one long pass. Keeps the water clean and I always have as clean a towels as possible. I do the fenders doors and trunks first and leave the rockers, wheel arches and under the bumpers last, using my set of towels that are not as new anymore. Those stains are tough to get out without using a strong cleaner.

The petsicide sprayer is also good to rinse the barrells of wheels which I pretreat with poorboys wheel cleaner. With the leftover water in the buckets I will use a Meguair's Wheel Face Brush to clean off the wheels. The grit guard is a must however.
 
racingbeat said:
I would go with the pesticide sprayer route. They come in 2 gallon sprayers drop and ounce or two of ONR in therea and just pump the handle. You can spray the whole car to loosen up the grime.

When its not so dirty, I like to take a sponge, dunk it in the ONR and hold it over each panel. This unloads enough water to soak the car in no time with only a couple of dunks.

I think the key to pre-soak the filthy car without touching it as much as possible.



I use many towels because I only make on long pass per side of the towel. With so many MF towels in my arsenal now I don't dunk the dirty towel in a rins bucket amymore. I just get a fresh towel dunk it and continue fliping after one long pass. I do the fenders doors and trunks first and leave the rockers, wheel arches and under the bumpers last with my towels that are not as new anymore.

The petsicide sprayer is also good to rinse the barrells of wheels which I pretreat with poorboys wheel cleaner. With the leftover water in the buckets I will use a Meguair's Wheel Face Brush to clean off the wheels. The grit guard is a must however.
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Excellent, Thanks!!
 
Joshua312 said:
My question would be why not use it on the glass? I use ONR on anything and everything and I love it. I also find using ONR helps hold the look of a "freshly" detailed car more so than when I use my foamgun...probably just my own opinion however no evidence to back it up.



My favorite part is following the ONR with a waffle weave, as almost everything is lifted off the paint anyways so there is minimal water to dry off. :clap:
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My question was from the perspective of why ONR works so well... thinking that the lubricants and 'stuff' would leave a film that might make glass streak or otherwise clean less easily.

I was thinking of saving the ONR for the body panels and using a glass cleaner like stoners for the glass.
 
racingbeat said:
Just from my experience, 146 is not really a subsitute for ONR. I wouldn't wash my car in 146 neither do I get the same results using ONR (QD strength) when left "as is". There are ingredients in 146 that simply aren't in ONR, I guess that's their trade secret but there's little doubt by seeing the finish and cleanliness of my paint after several days of rain and sun with 146 vs. ONR (QD strength). The 146 leaves it slicker, cleaner, longer hands down. At $25 for a gallon I don't think you can get a better deal for this level of quick detailing.



p.s.

don't dilute 146, it doesn't like this. I experimented with ONR and 146 at different dilutions and it was a no-go with 146. I had to dump out the spray bottle of diluted 146.

Must be something to do with antistatic ingredients.
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Don't get me wrong, I am a FK devotee....I have pretty much their whole line from #303 to #1000P....even their new #221-D.



146 does have it's "secret" anti-statis ingredients and at $26/gallon is a deal....but at around $1 to $3/gallon (128/3=42.6 times you can make a gallon of QD mix + cost of distilled water) for ONR QD is hard to beat. BTW, since ONR doesn't really strip anything away like your LSP topper (mines being 425 or 146 when I did the full wash--1st post) then you're getting additional layers of polymer between washes.
 
I'm a big FK express wax devottee but I haven't been blown away by their polishes and waxes. I mean I would be hard pressed to differentiate FK from Zaino or Werkstatt or Duragloss in "blind taste test". But the anti-static properties of the FK express detailing is not one that others can claim.

I would never leave my finish 'bare' without a helping of 146 or 425. I've seen this 1st hand with experimenting with just about every quick gloss or quick detailer I can get my hands on (except z8).

In other words ONR and 146 (or 425) should be sold in a "quick kit" if you will. Actually toss in OCW spray too.
 
thanks to this stupid thread I have just spent more money . . you guys are killing me . . .



bought some ONR - figured I would give it a try



11 $ for the small bottle on TOPOFTHELINE.COM



hopefully I didn't get taken.
 
abbeysdad said:
thinking that the lubricants and 'stuff' would leave a film that might make glass streak or otherwise clean less easily.
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ONR does a good job on glass, and like I posted earlier, I have been using it at QD strength to clean glass.
 
christ! well i guess ill have to buy some of this too. I cant believe this is the first im hearing of it though. the only thing that bogles my mind is that theres no rinsing. i know its different from just washing a car and then drying it with out rinsing soap off but its still wierd to me. damn new products! damn this site for making me spend money.
 
Scottwax said:
ONR does a good job on glass, and like I posted earlier, I have been using it at QD strength to clean glass.
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Thanks Scott - I've yet to use ONR (but surely will with winter looming).

My 'knee jerk' response was related to the posted complaint about it streaking glass...so if your no rinse car wash streaks glass....use a glass cleaner! - you know, like "Doc, it hurts when I do this"...."Then don't do that!"
 
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