Optimum Durability

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ZaneO

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I washed a customer's vehicle and applied OCW about 6 weeks ago. Today, I washed the car again with P21s soap, and there was no appreciable beading or slickness before or after the wash.



Is this the kind of durability everyone else is seeing from OCW?



Thanks.
 
I have sen beading of moderalty tight beads at 8 weeks with 2 coats on an Odyssey van. but it did seem at the end of its life span. this was afte a polish with OCP.
 
No. Just the opposite , in fact.

I've gotten very good results , durability-wise, with OCW.



Maybe the customer did something in the interim----got inspired to clean it and used Dawn or something goofy like that?



At the risk of offending, what was your process ?

Maybe another product caused a bonding issue?
 
gusbubba said:
No. Just the opposite , in fact.

I've gotten very good results , durability-wise, with OCW.



Maybe the customer did something in the interim----got inspired to clean it and used Dawn or something goofy like that?



At the risk of offending, what was your process ?

Maybe another product caused a bonding issue?
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I'm the only one that ever washes the car - the car was clayed and waxed twice during the summer, and washed 1-2 times a month since (by me). There was no wax present before applying OCW, and the vehicle was freshly washed with P21s soap and dried.



How long have you noted beading and slickness?
 
8 weeks is *really* pushing one application IMO. For *me* it seems that OCW is one of those products that *really* benefits from an additional application 1-2 weeks after the first.



I use OCW as more a weekly "booster" of sorts. Applied weekly, the beading incredible.
 
That's kind of what I was afraid of. I was really hoping to get much better durability from it. Seems right now, it's on par with some of my other carnauba waxes.
 
ebpcivicsi said:
I use OCW as more a weekly "booster" of sorts. Applied weekly, the beading incredible.
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Agreed, that's how I use it. For me, it's QD on steroids. It's so easy to use that I don't mind a few spritzes each week. Plus I like it on my windshield.



In the North East here, I'm lucky if I get a month out of any sealant I've used - OCW, UPP, EX, EX-P, NXT, etc... I have awesome durability results with all my collection of 'nubas (minus the beauty waxes).



The argument that sealants last longer than carnaubas is completely false in all *MY* experiences. (Never tried Zaino).
 
I've used OCW (over Natty's Blue) on my wife's Liberty for a couple months now - had been applying it every weekend after bathing it. With such, the beading has been great, very impressive.



However, until this past weekend I had OCW (over Natty's) on 1/2 of my daily driver (the passenger side) with Natty's regular on the other half. This car is driven at least 150 miles daily, and usually get's pampered each weekend (bath, another coat of Natty's and OCW) up until the real bad weather a few weeks ago. What I have found is that the Natty's side held up better than the OCW side - better beading, fewer spotting, etc. BTW - This car now has WG stuff on it (WG Glaze, WG sealant x2, and this weekend will start being treated with the new WG Sealant Spritz).
 
For the amount of effort required to apply Optimum spray wax, the result is darn good, IMO. I have been very pleased. I'll have to try multiple coats...have not done that yet.
 
tom p. said:
For the amount of effort required to apply Optimum spray wax, the result is darn good, IMO. I have been very pleased. I'll have to try multiple coats...have not done that yet.
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Yep'r, that is exactly why I am using OCW on my wife's Liberty. With a spray wax/sealant it allows me to "quickly" get another coat on it. I've been applying it OVER Natty's Blue on this vehicle and like how it retained the deep gloss that the Natty's Blue gave it.



Since I am a WG fan and they now have a spray sealant, I will be redoing the Liberty with the WG products (WG Glaze and Sealant), then treating it weekly with the new WG Sealant Spritz.
 
Some of you guys aren't talking about durability if you're talking about applying each week. Easy of use, etc. isn't what I'm talking about here.



I am asking specifically about the durability of an application of OCW.
 
I see OCW as lasting a month at best from a single application. More coats will be longer but I couldnt realisticly see it lasting over 6-8 weeks. I do love the stuff though and I use it as a booster.



Greg
 
John Styrnol said:
So how many apps. did they use in their test study to get 5 months?



http://www.optimumcarcare.com/optimumwax.html
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I *believe* this was taken from a local dealership who used the OCW exclusively as their LSP. Not sure exactly about the prep, but I *know* that they used the OCW as their LSP and *claimed* around 5 months of durability. If anyone has the old PCD magazine, the guy was in there with a pic of the dealership in the background. It's a BMW dealership in Memphis.....



Zaneo, did you apply it once, or twice for even coverage. When I have applied it as a LSP, I have always applied it twice for even coverage because it seems that the very nature of a spray wax makes it harder for *me* to get even coverage.
 
ZaneO said:
Some of you guys aren't talking about durability if you're talking about applying each week. Easy of use, etc. isn't what I'm talking about here.



I am asking specifically about the durability of an application of OCW.
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To be honest, I haven't heard of anyone who uses it as a genuine, stand alone LSP. Either they top it, use it as a topper or use as a QD-like product.



5 months? Yeah, right.
 
I applied one coat.



With the claim of 5 months durability, I was really hoping that I could use it as a stand alone LSP.
 
ZaneO said:
I applied one coat.



With the claim of 5 months durability, I was really hoping that I could use it as a stand alone LSP.
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I have used it as a LSP for some cars, heck it lasts as long as LS or TS. :) I typically use it as a topper because it removes the dust from paint, windows, etc in one pass around the car. IMO, it's an easy "bonus" to a detail OR a booster, but it does leave something to be desired in terms of durability as a stand alone LSP.
 
Spilchy said:
To be honest, I haven't heard of anyone who uses it as a genuine, stand alone LSP. Either they top it, use it as a topper or use as a QD-like product.



5 months? Yeah, right.
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Scottwax uses it as a stand-alone, but he doesn't have the acid rain etc. that we have here in the northeast, everything seems to last longer down there.
 
ebpcivicsi said:
I have used it as a LSP for some cars, heck it lasts as long as LS or TS. :) I typically use it as a topper because it removes the dust from paint, windows, etc in one pass around the car. IMO, it's an easy "bonus" to a detail OR a booster, but it does leave something to be desired in terms of durability as a stand alone LSP.
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Hey I agree with ya, but when people read that stuff, I'm sure the average person is expecting some where around 5 months protection with one app. I should be recieving the kit tomorrow or monday.
 
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