Opticoat Specialist and Clear Bra in Miami or Atlanta

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TH0001 said:
I may be in South Florida during that time.

Just saying...
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Very good. I wil PM you closer to the time.



I am probably going to do this in Atlanta, but it all depends on when they offer me a pickup date.
 
you should just tape up the whole car with blue tape, drive it home and then have someone prep it for you. The last thing you want is stuff happening on your way home with the new bra/detail. Trust me on this one.



here is a 2012 X3 that was driven 170 miles home because I couldn't make it to the dealer to prep the vehicle due to SEMA.



The car was dirty, but the dealer was told not to touch it under any circumstances and guess what. The car was almost perfect. It was polished with 85rd, (customer's request) UNO for the few RIDS and OPTI COATED.



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Batman75 said:
Very good. I wil PM you closer to the time.



I am probably going to do this in Atlanta, but it all depends on when they offer me a pickup date.
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Batman75 said:
I'll check with BMW, but I doubt there is much they can do. All new cars are washed when they come off the boat. They won't deliver a car completely raw with the dirt from the marine voyage. I am pretty sure they are required to wash it prior to customs inspection.
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Wrong! Don't let them touch the car outside of the necessary PDI work!





Here is a write up on a new M3 I did this summer, new car prep and Opti-Guard.



2011 M3, New Car Prep, Opti-Coat 2.0 Application, Install Appearance Mods – Detailed Image



David, Todd, or Bryan are all top notch detailers that WILL do the job correctly.
 
Barry Theal said:
Im not sure if I understand you. Your looking for experiance, but aren't willing to pay for it? David Fermani is very reasonable, but yet highly talented for what he does. David is in the top teir of detailers across the country. Now your looking for someone to apply two things that both can be expensive. Clear bra film itself isn't cheap. Then to find someone to install it as well? Sorry if I sound a bit confused here. As detailers we provide a service. Simply put in this business you get what you pay for. We are craftsmen that can care for a vehicle properly. Base price on your car is $46000. Yet your unwilling to pay up take manage the vehicle? OptiCoat is a permanent protection. Its not cheap. David is one of the first to have used it. He has tested this and used it many times. You won't find a more experianced person to do it. Its people like you that make me laugh. Its like walking into Macy's and expecting Walmart prices. I never understood this at all. Sorry if I sound a little arrogant. I'm not trying to and thats not my intentions. Detailers are a dime a dozen, espescially in your area. Talented detailers are few and far in between. This reminds me of another BMW thread http://www.autopia.org/forum/epic-t...le-price-david-fermani-opti-coat-new-car.html . Listen man, if you want cheap do it yourself. Then pay someone to fix your mistakes. Its that simple. If you want it done right, call a pro. Its your car and your choice. You came here asking for advice and it seems it was given. On a side note paint only gets marred if you or someone else mars it. Proper wash and maintence can save paint. Paint shouldn't be polished if 6 months or so hard. I think when Tdekaney was referring to polishing every 6 months, I think he was referring to a light polish to amplify gloss, not to compound and polish every six months. Using this method very minimal clear is actully being removed. Or you could just use a product with fillers every few months and keep the paint looking great. I wish you luck on your adventures, but remember this any detailer can make a car look great for a week or two, its the talented one that can make it look great for a lifetime.
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With all due respect, this is nothing like that thread. That guy bought a car that had been sitting on a dealer lot for a year and then had it repainted, and then asked for a quote. A repainted car is a horror story imo and I don't see how anyone could quote a job like that, except for assuming the worst. Plus that guy is an idiot.



My car is a brand new car, ordered directly by the factory and has never sat on a car lot - as we speak it is still on the ship. Even by the time I take delivery, it may be washed at most 2-3 times. I'm not saying it might not need a couple of stages of correction, but I don't think its comparable to that other guy's shady car. Plus I'm not expecting to get away with a cheap shoddy detailer, but I'm looking for someone who might be in the top 1%, not the top 0.0009%.



So your comment that people like me make you laugh is absurd! People like you who make extreme assumptions with little information destroy my faith in humanity.



Also Opticoat is not a permanent protection. Permanent protection might be something with hardness of diamond. Opticoat does still need correction from time to time. Unless you are someone who doesn't park your car in parking lots where someone might brush against it.
 
Batman - to say it isn't permanent because it may need polishing in the future.....



wouldn't that make OEM clear also not permanent?



I am on the side of Barry here because he is right. Your car's price is most likely way over 60K out the door. Yet you don't want to pay someone's price. Top 1%? Those in that small category provide QUALITY. Good work is never cheap!



Now imagine someone asked you to do a job (what ever you do for a living) but he doesn't want to pay what everyone else is paying you. How would you react?



I mean he isn't charging you more than other people, and if the car is in good shape, it may end up being under $1k. But for you to ask for the best and wanting to pay less than the asking price is not kosher. Ask Chip Foose to give you a discount because.....
 
tdekany said:
Batman - to say it isn't permanent because it may need polishing in the future.....



wouldn't that make OEM clear also not permanent?



I am on the side of Barry here because he is right. Your car's price is most likely way over 60K out the door. Yet you don't want to pay someone's price. Top 1%? Those in that small category provide QUALITY. Good work is never cheap!



Now imagine someone asked you to do a job (what ever you do for a living) but he doesn't want to pay what everyone else is paying you. How would you react?



I mean he isn't charging you more than other people, and if the car is in good shape, it may end up being under $1k. But for you to ask for the best and wanting to pay less than the asking price is not kosher. Ask Chip Foose to give you a discount because.....
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I haven't asked anyone for a discount here. But I bought a BMW not a Ferrari. BTW the prices being mentioned here are not phasing me.



Thanks for the suggestions.
 
Barry Theal said:
Its your car, do what you want. lol
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Barry -



If you have a nice house, should you shell out for a full time house keeper, or else live in an apartment! That's kind of what you are telling me. Just because I don't want to spend 5k on coating a new BMW doesn't mean I don't have my priorities right.



I am sure I can find someone who will do a good enough job in my budget. I'm sorry I don't drive a Ferrari and make a million dollars a year like your customers.



Oh and LOL is not an appropriate response on a thread like this. It upsets me. As a highly reputable guy in a service industry, I expected more from you. You kind of remind me of the Cartier salesman who looks down on people because they wear a Seiko.
 
Batman...if the car is defect free you're probably only looking at $500-800 to have it done. The M3 I did above was only $600 (minus the cost for installing the parts).



Tell your salesperson (or sales manager) explicitly not to wash or detail the car in anyway. BMW dealer or not, their detail department will do more harm then good. Once you receive the car contact one of the above 3 detailers and have them do the job.





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Batman75 said:
Thanks I emailed Fermani. Garry dean is in Tampa.



Anyone else? I'd be thrilled to get David Fermani to do this, but as one of the celebrity detailers, he may be out of my price range.
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What’s with Miami “brand new” BMW owners wanting their cars Opti-Coated??? Geesh, this sure feels like déjà vu? I wish I would have caught this thread sooner, but I’ve been slammed with work the entire week and away from my computer. I really don’t understand the motives behind creating this thread? Especially doing so a couple hours before contacting me through e-mail asking if I can still do it? You have my phone # too and you’ve already been quoted my rate structure. What I don’t get is that we’ve been in regular communication about me correcting your car and helping you with technical questions since August of 2010, but this thread blatantly shows your intensions to be different. You’ve followed this forum long enough as well as the threads I’ve forwarded to you to know that I am one of, if not the only Opti-Coat & correction “Specialist” who lives in S. Florida, yet you post this searching for an additional source? I don’t get it? Regardless, even though I currently reside in Michigan (and still owning a home in FL), everyone should be aware that I am still fully capable and interested in taking on a limited amount of work in Florida.



Bottom line, I trust that your car will be in good hands with either one of my close friends Todd or Bryan. Best of luck with your endeavors. :wavey
 
RaskyR1 said:
Batman...if the car is defect free you're probably only looking at $500-800 to have it done. The M3 I did above was only $600 (minus the cost for installing the parts).
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With all due respect Chad, please understand that prices on detailing(especially applying Opti-Coat) can, does and should fluctuate geographically throughout the country.
 
Batman75 said:
Barry -



If you have a nice house, should you shell out for a full time house keeper, or else live in an apartment! That's kind of what you are telling me. Just because I don't want to spend 5k on coating a new BMW doesn't mean I don't have my priorities right.



I am sure I can find someone who will do a good enough job in my budget. I'm sorry I don't drive a Ferrari and make a million dollars a year like your customers.



Oh and LOL is not an appropriate response on a thread like this. It upsets me. As a highly reputable guy in a service industry, I expected more from you. You kind of remind me of the Cartier salesman who looks down on people because they wear a Seiko.
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Seriously? I never said 5k on a new coating. My customers have nothing to do with this. For the purpose of this conversation, I don't just work on Ferrari's and cator to people making millions. Here is a prime example.



http://www.autopia.org/forum/click-...shing-barry-theal-presidential-details-4.html



For the record I never once questioned priorities, thats not my nature. I was just stating, its your car do what you want. Remember you came on here asking for advice. This is a open forum with many opinions. What upsets me is the fact that you want great work at an inexpensive price. Imagine if your on the other end busting you butt to build a career and to provide a service. There are expences that need covered. Insurance, tax, cost of services, and labor, and a few other things. Its not easy to make a living on your own. Then you have someone coming in who ?'s a price. I have been there and done that. It's my business and my fee's if you don't like it well someone else can do the job. Yes I understand your may pay more for a name, but thats just life. I spent countless hours building my business to what it is. I must say I think I'm doing something right. In several years I went from parttime out of my house to a half million dollar business. I think I learned something a long the way. One of the biggest things was to say no on certain jobs. Jobs where people have questioned my price or other related things. And as far as the Cartier salesmen who looks down on people for wearing a Seiko. That nuts. Paint is Paint. I'll polishing anything if someone wants to pony up. You can ask anyone who has met me in person. I always give when I can. I share my wealth often. I answer on average 5 phone calls a day from fellow detailers looking for advice. I get about 25 emails a week asking for advice. I won't even get into PM's Last I looked I have like 56 I need to reply to yet just on Autopia. DId you know I donated A good chunk of change to the local high school. I am a man who will always try to do what I can for others. Im not perfect not will I ever be. If I offended you. I apologize, but try and see it from our side.
 
You still don't get it. You want the best possible job for so-so money. That will never work.



It is also insulting that you think David would charge someone more because he/she drives a Ferrari. You are driving a BMW and not a Kia. That is another way to look at it. But for the last time, see if you can understand this.



David Fermani charges (I believe) hourly. If you want Opti Coat applied, I think his fee is $500



So you see, the kind of car you drive is irrelevant. David is able to charge what he charges because he is an exceptional craftsman. You want the best or one of the best? Expect to pay a higher fee. That is life.



You still haven't answered my question btw.



Batman75 said:
I haven't asked anyone for a discount here. But I bought a BMW not a Ferrari. BTW the prices being mentioned here are not phasing me.



Thanks for the suggestions.
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I actually flip flop my price structure from hourly to step pricing depending on the application. In this case I quoted the OP a set amount for each step of correction as well as for the application of Opti-Coat. Also, keep in mind that I would have charged this person the same rate structure for his new Blue BMW as I was going to for his much older soild black Lexus.
 
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