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dogma said:
I can't help thinking that Zaino must have unlocked some aspect of the wipe and go formula so now everyone can finish theirs.
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I've said this before, but it's a lot more likely some chemical company unlocked some aspect of a wipe-and-go formula so that "everyone" can come out with one.



The companies that make detailing products don't make chemicals, those are made by chemical companies like Dow, BASF, Dow Corning, Union Carbide, ICI, Eastman, FMC, etc., which makes the base materials or additives which are blended together with other materials, additives, etc. to make a detailing product.



Or, as BASF says in their advertising: "We don't make a lot of the products you buy. We make a lot of the products you buy better.®"
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I've said this before, but it's a lot more likely some chemical company unlocked some aspect of a wipe-and-go formula so that "everyone" can come out with one.



The companies that make detailing products don't make chemicals, those are made by chemical companies like Dow, BASF, Dow Corning, Union Carbide, ICI, Eastman, FMC, etc., which makes the base materials or additives which are blended together with other materials, additives, etc. to make a detailing product.



Or, as BASF says in their advertising: "We don't make a lot of the products you buy. We make a lot of the products you buy better.®"
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I think we have moved on from this a while ago. And at this point no one really cares.

I am reserving anymore comments on CS vs OS until I get my order of OS



Since you brought it up. Could one company working on a product analyze another company's product to find out what makes theirs work vs what they may have over looked. And then research the companies that make that particular chemical and then maybe add that chemical or missing link to theirs.



Again who cares. We have moved on until you brought it up again.



What we do know.



1. CS was out 1st

2. Looks are subjective

3. OS seems to be a little cheaper.

4. Durability will be the determining factor ( because looks are subjective)

5. Both products seem to work well

6. If OS is not Optimums answer to CS then it's definately their version.

7. There is a private war between Zaino haters and Optimum haters. We all see it and I

for one wish it would stop. It's going both ways not just Z people.

8. Both lines are good I have both. Looks are subjective durability seperates them.



While everyone has been duking it out I have been testing GC 50/50, Petes 53 and Mirror wet. Reviews to come.
 
Er...I'm not sure I understand your vitriolic response to my post, but I'm not involved in any "private war", and I'm sorry if I dredged up something that we had "moved on from" a few days ago, my computer crapped out on me and I've been offline for several days.



I was merely pointing out that the base chemicals are supplied and marketed by big companies, and there isn't any secret ingredient supplied by any of those companies that a particular detailing product mfr. has any exclusive use of. How all the base materials and additives are combined, any processing, etc. is certainly proprietary to the individual detailing product manufacturer. The differences in the end product certainly come from skill in that area, opinions on what a product should be like, as well as marketing, cost issues, etc.



Just like car manufacturers, none of them have any secret technologies, they are all making cars out of steel, plastic, and glass that run on gasoline (ok...or some other fuel)...it's all about how the companies are run, what they think are the important attributes of a car, costs, marketing, etc.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Er...I'm not sure I understand your vitriolic response to my post, but I'm not involved in any "private war", and I'm sorry if I dredged up something that we had "moved on from" a few days ago, my computer crapped out on me and I've been offline for several days.



I was merely pointing out that the base chemicals are supplied and marketed by big companies, and there isn't any secret ingredient supplied by any of those companies that a particular detailing product mfr. has any exclusive use of. How all the base materials and additives are combined, any processing, etc. is certainly proprietary to the individual detailing product manufacturer. The differences in the end product certainly come from skill in that area, opinions on what a product should be like, as well as marketing, cost issues, etc.



Just like car manufacturers, none of them have any secret technologies, they are all making cars out of steel, plastic, and glass that run on gasoline (ok...or some other fuel)...it's all about how the companies are run, what they think are the important attributes of a car, costs, marketing, etc.
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Sorry about your computer. No I was not refering to you, but we should move on.
 
[quote name='dogma']I think we have moved on from this a while ago. And at this point no one really cares.

I am reserving anymore comments on CS vs OS until I get my order of OS



Since you brought it up. Could one company working on a product analyze another company's product to find out what makes theirs work vs what they may have over looked. And then research the companies that make that particular chemical and then maybe add that chemical or missing link to theirs.



I do agree that one company could of easily got the idea or copied the other companies product from beta samples! Since the first post on a WOWA beta was back in 11-23-05 and I seem to remember them even father back that but that is the first reference I could find. So Dogma you are could be right!!! Here is the early thread http://autopia.org/forum/click-brag/64677-revisiting-e55-my-test-sealant.html?highlight=sealant:D
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