Opti-seal gurus? got a question:P

Anthony Orosco said:
Opti-Seal is super concentrated to where we can cover a Porsche in about 15 sprays.



If I remember correctly, 120 pumps equals about an ounce of product so if you're using 30 or more pumps per vehicle (sports car to sedan) you're most likely using too much.



The only issue an excessive amount of OS creates is smears....well that and waste, but the smears can be easily taken care of with a quick buff using a dry plush microfiber. I have purposely laid OS on very thick on a black Porsche once and while it did have smears they all eventually evaporated (it stayed in our shop overnight).



We spray Opti-Seal on cars and while this uses more product it also gives us better results in that more of the OS is applied and nothing removed. We do this many times while the client watches and they notice a visible difference right away plus if you thought applying OS by hand was fast spraying it on takes even less time.



By the way, the car came out looking very nice:)



Anthony
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Today was my first time using Opti-seal. Reaction - very scary. I use as people say, "Use one spritz per panel." That's exactly what I did and I got a bunch of smears on my black paint. This product is just soo concentrated that it's scary. I feel like one spritz could cover 2 panels instead of one.

Since I got smears from the OS from using 1 spritz, which I guess is too much. Would it be gone tomorrow? I was planning to go over with OID but I'm scared about the conflict with the curing tme.
 
GS4_Fiend said:
Today was my first time using Opti-seal. Reaction - very scary. I use as people say, "Use one spritz per panel." That's exactly what I did and I got a bunch of smears on my black paint. This product is just soo concentrated that it's scary. I feel like one spritz could cover 2 panels instead of one.

Since I got smears from the OS from using 1 spritz, which I guess is too much. Would it be gone tomorrow? I was planning to go over with OID but I'm scared about the conflict with the curing tme.
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The best way to learn how to use Opti-Seal is to use it on your windows. You can tell EXACTLY how much product you're using then and then wait to see if it actually leaves smears/streaks or not. You have to find the happy medium between using enough product that gives good coverage but doesn't leave streaks.



Even if you leave streaks though a quick buff with a MF will take care of it. The only downfall is you're wasting product. A single 8oz bottle will do like 40-50 cars so I don't think you can waste too much anyways. This product is so user friendly you really can't mess it up unless your brain falls out of your skull.



I personally do not spray the product directly on the panel. I spray it on the applicator itself. At first I may use 2-3 pumps to "prime" the applicator and then from there I will just use one pump as needed. With more experience you will easily tell when the applicator needs another pump.



Even better if you use a spray wax to go over the Opti-Seal. I don't think OID would be bad going on the top of OS but I like to use AW or OCW on top.
 
ABQDetailer said:
The best way to learn how to use Opti-Seal is to use it on your windows. You can tell EXACTLY how much product you're using then and then wait to see if it actually leaves smears/streaks or not. You have to find the happy medium between using enough product that gives good coverage but doesn't leave streaks.



Even if you leave streaks though a quick buff with a MF will take care of it. The only downfall is you're wasting product. A single 8oz bottle will do like 40-50 cars so I don't think you can waste too much anyways. This product is so user friendly you really can't mess it up unless your brain falls out of your skull.



I personally do not spray the product directly on the panel. I spray it on the applicator itself. At first I may use 2-3 pumps to "prime" the applicator and then from there I will just use one pump as needed. With more experience you will easily tell when the applicator needs another pump.



Even better if you use a spray wax to go over the Opti-Seal. I don't think OID would be bad going on the top of OS but I like to use AW or OCW on top.
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What I used was a foam applicator from Pinnacle. First prime the pad with 2 spritz. From then on is just a spritz on the pad per panel. And it streaks and smears. The pad always feel like it's grabbing. Makes me feel like I should give it another spritz but I didn't because I see streaks/smears so I know I'm applying too much.



Before I had KSG, I had problem applying it thin too. After it dries up. It's almost impossible to get it off. You mush use QD to remove it clean. So that made it easy. But that does remove a majority of the KSG. Same scenario with the OS, I don't want to use QD to remove it. As I would lose some protection. Also I don't want to wait until the next day. As I want it to be done on the same day.



I was thinking on getting MF applicator pads. But they don't last long and work good after a couple of washes. But on the other side, foam is harder to use so spread thin because they tend to grab. I suppose foam works better with waxes.
 
This is one more reason why I like OCW better, it's not as picky with how much you apply and it's easy to know when you actually have covered everything. With OS I feel like I either use too much(streaks) or too little (makes the pad really grabby and hard to work with)
 
Until I figured out how much to spray, I dropped about 4 pads everytime I applied Opti-seal!



OCW can be applied to heavily. I see it on my solid black car. But its easily fixed with a little wayer and a microfiber.
 
Try applying OS with a microfiber covered applicator. I found this to work better than foam, with less streaking.
 
Rob Tomlin said:
Try applying OS with a microfiber covered applicator. I found this to work better than foam, with less streaking.
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I have to add you to the Optimum trio now...:hifive:



I always use foam pads....and blow through about 4 until I over-apply product and need to hit the car with OID or OCW after it dries. Its grippy!
 
jdoria said:
I have to add you to the Optimum trio now...:hifive:



I always use foam pads....and blow through about 4 until I over-apply product and need to hit the car with OID or OCW after it dries. Its grippy!
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I don't put myself in the same class as those other guys, so I appreciate the compliment!



I have been using OS for 2 years now, so I am fairly familiar with it. :)



Got_Leather said:
Exactly..



I use these..



THESE
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Great minds....



I use the exact same applicator! That's even where I got it! :D
 
So I was reading on another forum. They said that it's better to apply OS first then a wax instead of vice versa. It's because OS is a heavily solvent that will eat (as in take over) the LSP that was on previously. Is that true ?
 
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