Opinions on P21S...

P21S Paintwork Cleansing lotion is really great! Follow up with their wax and you won't believe the results!

It contains mild abrasives and oils to make swirl marks less visible and enhance the shine so remember to wash it off if you're going to apply any polymer.
 
GEPC is great. It is basicly the same as Pinnacle's Paint Cleansing Lotion. The best thing about it is that you can easily apply it by hand and get good results. I use it for mild waterspots all the time. Very good product. I think it is a must for any detailer's garage. :xyxthumbs
 
P21S GEPC or S100 SEPC are incredibly good final glazes to use immediately prior to waxing. I feel the shine and depth are very close to Meguiars Hand Polish without the minor smearing when removing HP. GEPC/SEPC slick up the paint nearly as good as the wax does and makes waxing easier since the wax seems to glide on with no effort.
 
I was going to use meguiars medallion paint cleaner to remove my swirls and then follow with 3M SMR to get the paint swirl free before I zaino. Would you guys go over it with the P21S after the SMR or before? Or even yet would P21S eliminate the need for SMR and vice versa? How abrasive is the SMR? How abrasive is Meguiars Medallion paint cleaner for that matter?
 
SMR is more abrasive than P21s GEPC so you want to use it after SMR. Check your finish after SMR, are you happy with it? If yes skip P21S, if not give it a try.

I don't have any experience with Medallion line, maybe Scottwax will comment.
 
Wow, maybe I go against the norm, but the GEPC step between my last detailing of SMR/GEPC/P21S concours was absolutely vital. I was very pleased after the SMR, and almost didn't use the GEPC (my first time). Boy am I glad I tried it on a section. Even though I was in a hurry, it made enough difference to do the whole car...



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F1Crazy said:
SMR is more abrasive than P21s GEPC so you want to use it after SMR. Check your finish after SMR, are you happy with it? If yes skip P21S, if not give it a try.

I don't have any experience with Medallion line, maybe Scottwax will comment.
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I love it, I was disappointed w/ Meg's #7 my last wash so I bought the s100 paint cleanser, I was stunned at the difference in shine, smoothness and deepness.
 
F1Crazy said:
SMR is more abrasive than P21s GEPC so you want to use it after SMR. Check your finish after SMR, are you happy with it? If yes skip P21S, if not give it a try.

I don't have any experience with Medallion line, maybe Scottwax will comment.
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I'm not a big Medallion fan. I'd use either Swirl Remover #9 2.0 (Mirror Glaze line) or Swirl Free (Body Shop line) to remove swirls and minor scratches, then follow with GEPC/SEPC prior to waxing. It is worth the extra step.
 
I was out X-mas shopping when I drove by a Harley dearlership. I stopped in and they had a good sized display of S100 products. Got some SEPC and some S100 paste wax. Can't wait to try it--after all of the great reviews of both products--am hoping for warm weather!



The guy at the dealership must not of thought I looked liked I rode a motorcycle since he asked me in an inquisitive tone whether I was going to use the S100 on my bike. I said no--putting in on my cars. He went on to say that he has a lot of folks come in to buy it for their vehicles and all swear by it. I told him about Autopia and he was really excited--I bet we will soon have another member! Now, I just hope I do not have to wait till March or April to use it:bounce
 
The first time I used this product, I was simply amazed at how easy it was to use and how well it removed/filled micro-swirls & hazing. Although I still use Mother's Sealer/glaze once in a while, P21S GEPC pretty much blows the "old-shool" glazes out of the water when it comes to ease of use, shine & slickness. This product pretty much renders them obsolete...IMO.
 
Intermezzo said:
The first time I used this product, I was simply amazed at how easy it was to use and how well it removed/filled micro-swirls & hazing. Although I still use Mother's Sealer/glaze once in a while, P21S GEPC pretty much blows the "old-shool" glazes out of the water when it comes to ease of use, shine & slickness. This product pretty much renders them obsolete...IMO.
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Hi Tony,

Are you saying that P21S GEPC is far superior to my old standbys like IHG and Meg #7? Are the results the same? Better? Ease of use is not a concern ( I have mastered IHG on black ). Be careful how you answer these questions. The CC is in my hand and the clicker is ready to hit CMA.:D :wavey
 
blkZ28Conv said:
Hi Tony,

Are you saying that P21S GEPC is far superior to my old standbys like IHG and Meg #7? Are the results the same? Better? Ease of use is not a concern ( I have mastered IHG on black ). Be careful how you answer these questions. The CC is in my hand and the clicker is ready to hit CMA.:D :wavey
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Hi blkZ28Conv,



I guess it's just my personal preference. Even with ease of use aside, the clarity, slickness & the level of gloss you get with GEPC is much higher than with IHG & the Meguiar's glazes. Although you could make a case for the older glazes having a DEEPER shine & working better with products like #26 or Blitz, I think GEPC is the clear winner when it comes just about every other factor.



Hey, before you go clicking away, I'd be happy to send you a sample of it. I've got enough to last me quite a while...



Tony
 
Hi Tony,

I appreciate the offer but after all the work it would take for you to package, ship and postage cost I could have ordered and save you some extra work. I trust your opinion and will give it a whirl.

I would have rec'd from you the sample and like the results which would eventually lead to my ordering anyways.

Again I appreciate your generousity.:xyxthumbs :wavey

Edwin
 
I really like the gepc, and have used it on my 2002 black F-150 for almost a year now. If your finish is in good shape, give it a shot. My impression is it's pretty mild in terms of getting rid of deeper swirls, etc., so in that case you may need something stronger if you want to get rid of/hide those (but why not start out milder and work toward stronger if needed). The finish on my wife's 98 Mustang is a bit older (I did not become an autopian until later in life), and the gepc is a bit too mild in this case. And definitely give the p21S/S100 wax a shot when you've finished with the gepc!



ernie
 
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