ONR With Wax has Arrived!

Won't the wax in the ONR reduce it's general purpose-ness?



That's a big reason I like ONR so much, you can use it on everything.



Everything exterior, including clay lube, I'm assuming is okay.



But for the interior, can you still use it on leather and your dash?
 
So let me understand this correctly.



ONR=rinseless was w/polymer



OWW=rinseless wash w/wax instead of polymer .
 
Fallguy said:
So let me understand this correctly.



ONR=rinseless was w/polymer



OWW=rinseless wash w/wax instead of polymer .

Since ONR cleans via polymers I'd think both versions have polymers, just one has wax as well.
 
The ONR- with wax- states with Carnauba. I am using it to clean and then while wet, spray surface with TechShine. Regular cars look incredible and come out SLICK!



I assume that car wax over the same deal would work as well.



I am more excited about the new glass coatings coming out next month!



Rob
 
dervdave said:
How much OCW have you been using Scott ?



Around an ounce



toyotaguy said:
are you saying you ONR WITH OCW mixed in?



Yes, works great



levander said:
Won't the wax in the ONR reduce it's general purpose-ness?



That's a big reason I like ONR so much, you can use it on everything.



Everything exterior, including clay lube, I'm assuming is okay.



But for the interior, can you still use it on leather and your dash?



I've been using it to wipe down my interior since I got it, works just fine.



Fallguy said:
So let me understand this correctly.



ONR=rinseless was w/polymer



OWW=rinseless wash w/wax instead of polymer .



ONR WW is ONR with carnauba wax added. Otherwise, as far as I know its ONR v3 as the product base.
 
I emailed Optimum asking about using OWW on the interior. This is the response I got back:



Thank you for your interest in Optimum products. Optimum No Rinse with Wax can be used in the same way and in the same dilution ratios as ONR on the exterior. We do not recommend using ONR + W on the interior or on carpets (ONR is still the product for the interior). Your best choice for carpet cleaning is Power Clean in a 3:1 ratio.



He mentioned carpets because I said something about that in my email to them. He didn't explicitly say, but I assume you have to rinse OPC off your carpet after using it there.



But after reading Scottwax's comment, and before getting that email, I did some Google searches for "carnauba leather". The results were scattered and not what I'd consider authoritative, but everyone who talked about it, they were saying they used carnauba on leather and it worked really well, it softened the leather up a lot of times.



Similar results for googling for "carnauba car window". I didn't get to googling for carnauba and dash.



I think I'm going to hold off on the OWW on interior for now though.
 
I use ONR v3 and OCW on my boring Focus and I drive it in the rain practically every day. It's been like 2 weeks since I last washed it, but when I look around, my car usually have the nicest beading of all the cars out there. The wash 2 weeks ago was a plain ONR wash.



I do ONR wash followed by OCW every other week. Some like to add OCW to ONR wash in the bucket, but I do it in two steps.
 
When I am doing a detail on a car, I'm using ONR v3 and I'm surprised how it lifts non-greasy stains from carpets. OPC for anything nasty though.



I'll keep monitoring my interior after wiping it down with ONR WW but after nearly 2 months of using it now, I can't see any problems with it.
 
I just got to try ONRwW out. Initial impressions are favorable.



Pros

-smells great, almost like green Airheads candy

-cleaning action has not been compromised with the addition of wax

-adds additional slickness compared to ONRV3

Cons

-Slickness isn't anything like OCW.

-Strange interaction (water spots) with a car that has been pre-rinsed



Overall, a great product. It adds additional slickness to the surface of the car, more so than ONRv3 but none of us are going to mistake the car for being freshly QD'd...well not with any modern QD. The slickness left behind is very similar to that of Meg's Maroon QD.



The only issue I had was I pre-rinsed a car and then proceeded to use ONRwW at the recommended concentration, using the Gary Dean wash method. While drying the car I noticed very substantial water spots all over the car. They weren't etched or anything, but just took significant force to remove. It appears to be the polymers/wax are interacting with the minerals in the rinse water left on the car. I did not have this issue on a car I didn't pre-rinse.
 
Out of curiosity Dan why do you pre rinse before a rinseless wash? I've heard of people doing this before but have never done it myself. If is a vehicle is so dirty that it needs a pre rinse I just pull out a hose and do a two bucket wash.
 
toyotaguy said:
will this replace ONR followed by OCW?



Ive been playing with some ONR/OCW express jobs recently for maintenance clients and its proven to be pretty solid for monthly clients...still has a waxed feel to them a month later



IHA Mark said:
Out of curiosity Dan why do you pre rinse before a rinseless wash? I've heard of people doing this before but have never done it myself. If is a vehicle is so dirty that it needs a pre rinse I just pull out a hose and do a two bucket wash.



I pre-rinse because it takes as long (or less) as doing an ONR pre-soak yet washes away so much more abrasives, it also uses less ONR. I find my towels also stay cleaner. If there was a regular soap that produced results as good as ONRv3 or ONRwW, I certainly would do a traditional wash. I find doing the strong rinse and using the Gary Dean method, I get great results in very little time.
 
So I've had quite a few chances to use ONRW, I gotta say I'm really loving the stuff. Finally a wash that I don't feel the need to QD after. I just picked up a new Wrangler and it has tons of trim on it. ONRW makes the trim look great. I even started using it on the interior, adds a hint of gloss and darkens the plastic. Looks great on the soft top as well.



Also my water spotting issue might not be due to the pre-rinsing after all. Looks like if you just get some runoff of residual ONRW and it dries, its a ***** to remove. Guess whatever polymers/wax are in there bond very well!



This stuff is a serious home run. I was sooooo underwhelmed by Opticlean, Dr. G, you've really redeemed yourself!
 
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