ONR & Wheels

Jesstzn

Jesstzn

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I have read a bunch of threads and watched a couple of vids on it but I'm wondering how you deal with wheels / tires using it?



My sole use would be for car cleanup if it rains on the way to a car show etc. and the dirtiest part is going to be the wheels/tires.



Wouldn't drying the wheels / tires really mess up the M/F drying towels?
 
Yep - they will stain which is why you use dedicated towels for wheels/tires. I like the Mainstays MF WW kitchen towels for this - walmart 2 pack for under $3.
 
I use a soft wheel brush for my tires and dry with a terry cloth.



For the wheels I use a piece of the Lowes GS to clean the wheels and I dry with a Wal-mart brand MF.
 
I myself first spray my wheels with a dilute APC and my tires with FS APC. Then I dip one terry cloth towel into my ONR bucket and wipe the tire down good and then use another terry cloth towel and dip that one too and wipe the tire again. After I get done with the tire I do the wheel with a microfiber mitt. And last dry the tire with a terry cloth and wheel part with microfiber towel.
 
For some reason, when I wash my wheels/tires with ONR (and then treat the wheels with something like FK425), it's harder to clean them up (using conventional methods) the next time :nixweiss It's like the ONR makes [stuff] harder to get off even though the FK425/etc. oughta mitigate any such possiblility.
 
Accumulator said:
For some reason, when I wash my wheels/tires with ONR (and then treat the wheels with something like FK425), it's harder to clean them up (using conventional methods) the next time :nixweiss It's like the ONR makes [stuff] harder to get off even though the FK425/etc. oughta mitigate any such possiblility.
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I'd venture a guess that the lubes/surfactants in ONR prevent a good bond for the FK425...and (as most of us ONR fans would likely agree) the shine/protection of ONR doesn't last very long...

Just thinking out loud, but ..... In the end, if you're gonna apply dressings, maybe another cleaning method is more appropriate for wheels/tires to ensure good product bonding?
 
weekendwarrior said:
Whenever I clean my wheels with ONR or QEW, I spray some Aquawax on right before drying the wheels off. This always works well for me.
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Isn't the idea of ONR that there isn't water availalble thus the bucket of ONR mix .. So how do you wet the wheels?.. Your saying wet the wheels then spray AW on the dirty wet wheels and dry them?
 
No...



I dip my wash media (for wheels I have a few brushes and sponges I use for the wash media) into the bucket of ONR/water. I then wash the wheel with the wet media. After I have washed the whell to my satisfaction, it is still wet from the ONR/water mixture. While it is still wet, I give it a spray or 2 of AquaWax, then dry it with my dedicated wheel microfiber towel.
 
Take a pressure sprayer with ONR mix. Spray and wipe with dedicated towels. Repeat if needed. Treat with FK425, OID, Quickshine ... Wash towels seperate from car detailing towels.
 
weekendwarrior said:
Whenever I clean my wheels with ONR or QEW, I spray some Aquawax on right before drying the wheels off. This always works well for me.
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sometimes i use onr or dg 521. both work well on cool temp wheels. also use dedicated towels for wheels only. for stubborn stains dg501 is awesome and leaves a terrific shine (at least on clearcoated wheels).



i clean my wheels so often i've never had to use a strong wheel cleaner. just spray and wipe, then dry off with clean mf.
 
Accumulator said:
For some reason, when I wash my wheels/tires with ONR (and then treat the wheels with something like FK425), it's harder to clean them up (using conventional methods) the next time :nixweiss It's like the ONR makes [stuff] harder to get off even though the FK425/etc. oughta mitigate any such possiblility.
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I was having that same problem, Accumulator. Keeping a good layer of UPGP on the wheels has really helped.
 
MDRX8 said:
Take a pressure sprayer with ONR mix. Spray and wipe with dedicated towels. Repeat if needed. Wash towels seperate from car detailing towels.
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I use a similar method. I'll pre-spray the tire and wheel down with plain water with the sprayer, then spray on a APC, scrub & wipe, then rinse with the sprayer, and finally dry with older MF's.
 
Ok guys thanks for the replies ..



It seems like we have drifted off topic.



From what I'm getting is yes its going to mess up the drying cloths drying the tires so bring lots of old ones.



Use a QD on the wheels after to finish it off.



Regarding the post quoted below wouldn't this apply to the whole car the next time around? Or is the FK425 only being used on the wheels? Or is it the result of the FK425 reacting with the ONR residue.



"For some reason, when I wash my wheels/tires with ONR (and then treat the wheels with something like FK425), it's harder to clean them up (using conventional methods) the next time It's like the ONR makes [stuff] harder to get off even though the FK425/etc. oughta mitigate any such possiblility. "



If its the ONR making things harder to clean up the next time then its not something I'm interested in and I'll not bother with the bottle I ordered.
 
SuperBee364 said:
I was having that same problem [with subsequent cleanups], Accumulator. Keeping a good layer of UPGP on the wheels has really helped.
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Haven't tried the UPGP, but the wheels in question were *very* well protected by KSG, UPP, and 845. Same thing happened on all three :nixweiss



Jesstzn said:
...Regarding the post [about ONRed wheels being harder to clean conventionally the next time].. wouldn't this apply to the whole car the next time around? Or is the FK425 only being used on the wheels? Or is it the result of the FK425 reacting with the ONR residue. ...If its the ONR making things harder to clean up the next time then its not something I'm interested in and I'll not bother with the bottle I ordered.
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Lots to answer/clarify, don't want you to get any wrong ideas from my experiences :D



I never ONR the whole vehicle unless it's already basically spotless and the only times I've done that I did not notice a harder cleanup the next time (but it didn't get too dirty before the next wash either).



I too wondered about the ONR reacting with the FK425, but *not* using the FK425 made things worse instead of better on the wheels. NO difference using other QDs like UGE, Qwik Shine, and the BF QD instead of FK425.



I really hesitate to say the ONR is leaving a residue (gotta wear a flamesuit when criticizing Optimum stuff anyhow ;) ) but it does appear to be doing that. I've tried it both wash-strength and QD-strength with the same results (though the latter sure did clean better). I do a pre-treat with ONR before doing the "regular ONRing". There does NOT seem to be a *discrernable* residue as I would use the word, but ONRing does seem to leave the surface uhm.. a little "different", not just clean. Hey...I dunno *what's* really going on :nixwiess



I do still do the ONR wheel wash sometimes. When the rest of the vehicle is nice and clean but the wheels are really soiled with brake dust, it seems to be the best way to do a quickie job on the parts of the wheels that really show (I can't do the back sides very well this way, at least not without risking getting ONR/dirt/etc. on the rest of the vehicle). The subsequent cleanups aren't all *THAT* awful, and sometimes it's worth the later hassle to be able to clean the wheels up quickly/easily without doing a full wash of the whole vehicle. So I'd give it a try and see how it works for *YOU*. Oh, and I'd also appreciate some feedback so I can see if it's just one of those weird things that's specific to my situation (heh heh, not all good products are Accumulator-proof ;) ).
 
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