ONR Rules!

Demonicus666 said:
Hey what is this ONR everyone is talking about?
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It's Optimum No Rinse - a product and method to wash your vehicle without rinsing with a single bucket and a few gallons of water. This method has huge advantages in times of water restrictions, where a conventional wash would be a soapy water mess, OR when WINTER comes and the hose is frozen solid.

Quite honestly, after trying it (and I haven't fine tuned the process yet) I don't know if I'll miss the conventional wet wash 'n dry.
 
And yet another benefit...

Remember I have Klasse AIO/KSG x3 as my LSP, but with the fall rains comes the muddy water that leaves a dirty film along the sides (and terrible in the back with the dead air there).

Came home in the rain last night. The ONR slickness that produced the shine I reported in a previous post caused the dirty water residue that I expected to see to not be there - In this case, the slick surface combined with enough rain just rinsed the vehicle nice and clean.

Also, I noticed the RainX like effect on my windshield that I think Scottwax reported.
 
Is this TOL a online store??? If TOL is an lnine store can someone please give me a link thanks.



abbeysdad said:
Background: I have a good LSP in layers with AIO and KSG x3 (augmented with some homemade KSG glanz after the last few weekly washes).

I think I will go one step further for winter and top with Collinite 476 (ETA next week).



My gallon of ONR arrived from TOL yesterday so tonight after work I did a trial. I had decided on a slightly different approach than some have documented.



I mixed a gallon of ONR in a (one gallon) pump sprayer. I used 2 capfuls (1 oz.) instead of just one and filled with hot tap water. I filled my 5 gallon (rinse) pail with warm rinse water. I sprayed (top down) a panel at a time and using a very wet, but not sopping WW MF I wiped the panel down, then followed with a dry WW MF. I kept rinsing my wash/rinse towel as needed and when it seemed very dirt stained, I rotated in my drying towel and used a new towel for drying.



WOW! Dirt just melts off the vehicle and you really can feel how slick it feels (and I was very cautious about the slightest feel of grit across the paint. Even the rear (really ugly/dirty because of the dead air space of the Rendezvous rear end) cleaned/wiped off very nicely (although I sprayed it a bit heavier).

Slightly different than a wet wash, I did the tires/wheels last and even they came out looking really nice.



All said and done I spent about an hour. I used slightly less than half of that 1 gallon sprayer so I'm set/mixed to go next time. The Rondy looks every bit as good as after a wet wash and dry and I'll have to ask come spring if I even want the soap & water mess in the driveway.



I'm impressed and sure would like to buy the fella that invented this stuff a beer or two!



I know the true test comes in the dead of winter. I live on a hill in the country on a state road in Central New York. To prevent accidents, they take really good care of my hill and that means a fair amount of SALT.

I plan to augment my ONR garage washes as necessary with the power of the coin-op. However, I'll take my ONR filled sprayer and just use the rinse or the wax setting at the coin-op.



I'm pumped! :woohoo:
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Just got my ONR this week and did my first ONR wash this weekend. That first wash is a scary one...logic tells you washing this way is a BAD thing. I used my sheepskin wash mit with no more pressure on it than the weight of the mitt itself. It takes a couple of panels before you really get the hang of how wet is too wet for the wash mit. I used two buckets, one for wash and one for rinsing the mitt. I did a panel at a time, following the guides I've seen here, and dried as I finished each panel. No marring that I could see in direct sunlight and very little water on the ground. Two gallons of solution was enough to finish two cars, and even then I had almost a gallon of solution left. Next time I'll make less. With the two bucket method, my solution was left crystal clear after two cars and my rinse bucket was a lovely charcoal grey.



I love this product! I can't ever see a reason to go back to traditional water wash, unless we're talking about a quick spray down with the pressure washer on a super dirty car before starting.
 
I like the waffle weave towel because I'm wiping the dirt off the finish and I think the texture of the WW aids in that. But nothing wrong with a sponge if it works for you and you're happy with the results.



As to brushes (I know I'm not Scott and would yield to his greater experiance with the product, but I find the same brushes I'd use for a wet wash work equally well with ONR. Frankly I'm surprized and pleased with just how well ONR does on the wheels/tires!
 
I used it in the past with a MF, tried it today with Sheepskin...this is my new preferred method, just seems to release dirt and grit far easier.
 
thesacrifice said:
I used it in the past with a MF, tried it today with Sheepskin...this is my new preferred method, just seems to release dirt and grit far easier.
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I think the key is the waffle weave, not the MF.
 
I use the MF Mit. I can honestly say that since I have been using this, I cannot see myself going back to a regular wash every again.
 
I really would like to try this stuff, but I'm still not sold on the product just yet.



For me, it's mainly because we don't really have winter here in SoCal. In my area, there's also no water restriction. So I don't really have a need for it other than using it as a QD.



I'm looking to buy a QD in bulk and currently the only two things I've really looked at are Meg's Last Touch and this. If anyone have used both products as a QD, any comparison thoughts you'd like to share?
 
thesacrifice said:
You know, I foamgun when its nice outside, but am considering only ONR'ing here on out. That's how good it is.
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I was doing the wet wash every week-end in the driveway and now I'm thinking the same thing. Looking forward to trying the ONR spray at the coin-op too.
 
abbeysdad said:
I was doing the wet wash every week-end in the driveway and now I'm thinking the same thing. Looking forward to trying the ONR spray at the coin-op too.
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The ability to be right there at your paint and see problem areas such as tar/bugs and not get totally soaked are two major things selling me.
 
I just tied ONR for the first time. I used 2 buckets one with ONR and one with rinse water. Sheep skin mitt for washing and MF towels for drying. I had some sand and gunk on the paint, it came right off without a problem. I still think a starndard was is better in some ways, but this was much faster and less messy.



Does anyone know if ONR will interfere with Zaino? I use z-8 after washing, not sure how this will react with ONR.



Steve
 
My 05 RX8 has seen a foam gun three times in its life. The rest are ONR washes with a very plush MF towel. I dry with a plush MF also. Works great. My only concern about ONR is the last gallon I received wash a greyish color. Still works ok but I'd rather it look blue.
 
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