ONR Media

thesacrifice said:
eurow sheepskins
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I used to use those for ONR washes as well, but I got tired of them shedding and started using a MF mitt. Do you experience shedding when you us the euro's?



When I pick up some grout sponges, I'll probably try them with ONR...haven't really had the need to break out the hose and buckets lately.
 
SpoiledMan said:
Scott, durable, always available(if they're in your area), *perfect* for ONR type washing. They rinse well, easily used with one hand and don't "trap" things on their surface as the MF covered sponge could. All that for $2.:D

http://autopia.org/forum/car-detail...pusher.html?highlight=hey+grout+sponge+pusher
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SpoiledMan - I tried the GS on a panel but it didn't seem to glide as well as a chenille. The GS I bought was the QES (made in Greece) but it's pretty stiff.
 
When ONR'ing I use sheepskin mitts and MF towels.



What type of chenille mitts do y'all use?

I have the Meg's chenille covered sponge that is "bone" shaped and it lints like crazy!
 
Dailyshine said:
I used to use those for ONR washes as well, but I got tired of them shedding and started using a MF mitt. Do you experience shedding when you us the euro's?



When I pick up some grout sponges, I'll probably try them with ONR...haven't really had the need to break out the hose and buckets lately.
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Yup lots of shedding, which sucks. Some last longer then others. I have three grout sponges now though, cant wait to try them out to see if theyre worth the hype.



What I love about the sheepskin is being able to shove it into cracks and run it along.
 
twitch said:
When ONR'ing I use sheepskin mitts and MF towels.



What type of chenille mitts do y'all use?

I have the Meg's chenille covered sponge that is "bone" shaped and it lints like crazy!
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I have a chenille covered sponge that my grandmother happen to come by and just bought for me. Its from vroom and its a piile of horse poo. Sheds soooooooo bad.
 
I use Eurow Sheepskins.



I have noticed a very small amount of shedding - but nothing major. I've been using the same Sheepskin with ONR now for about 3 months and it is still going strong with no appreciable deterioration.



I use MF towels for the side sill extensions/lower panels that get more dirt/grit and the Eurow Sheepskins for all other paint.
 
Milestones said:
I have noticed a very small amount of shedding - but nothing major.
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Yeah, I mean I'm not having clumps of hair fall out at a time, but it sheds enough that I have a good amount of wet hair stuck on the panel, then when I dry, I have hair flying all over the place that tends to just reattach itself to the panels. Even though I blot dry, I still rather not have hair (wet or dry) on the panel as I'm drying or using a QD out of fear of marring the paint.



When I switched to ONR from QEW I was hoping that maybe I wouldn't have to deal with the shedding, but oh well...must be something common with rinseless washes I guess. I've still yet to try DP 4in1, though.
 
Dailyshine said:
Yeah, I mean I'm not having clumps of hair fall out at a time, but it sheds enough that I have a good amount of wet hair stuck on the panel, then when I dry, I have hair flying all over the place that tends to just reattach itself to the panels. Even though I blot dry, I still rather not have hair (wet or dry) on the panel as I'm drying or using a QD out of fear of marring the paint.
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Wow.



No - I have never had a problem even approaching that level of shedding using a Eurow Sheepskin with ONR.



The worst I've noticed is a few strands attached to the grit guard in my rinse bucket - but never a trace of anything on my car.



You must have just picked up a crappy substandard mitt.
 
Milestones said:
You must have just picked up a crappy substandard mitt.
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That's what I would be thinking too, but I've used a number of mitts I've bought from PakShak, the ones found at WalMart, and brands they had at the local auto parts store, and they've all reacted the same way. :nixweiss



Yeah, I'd have some hair attached to my grit guard too...as well as strands floating on top of the water.



But like I said, I'm using MF mitts for that now, so no more worries. :)
 
Well - I guess I'll start paying close attention to this shedding issue since some of you guys have had a problem with it.



So far, so good for me though - 3 months + with the same Eurow mitt with no shedding issues.



Perhaps it's because I agitate my mitt in my rinse bucket when using ONR to get rid of any dirt/grit caught in the mitt. When I'm agitating the mitt that way perhaps any fibers that are loose come off in the rinse bucket instead of in the wash bucket or my car. Are you guys who are having problems with shedding using a one or two bucket ONR method?





All I know is that the Eurow sheepskins have been working great with ONR for me and I'm glad because sheepskins are less likely to cause marring than most other wash media IMO (which is particularly important when using a no rinse wash product like ONR).
 
Milestones said:
Perhaps it's because I agitate my mitt in my rinse bucket when using ONR to get rid of any dirt/grit caught in the mitt. When I'm agitating the mitt that way perhaps any fibers that are loose come off in the rinse bucket instead of in the wash bucket or my car. Are you guys who are having problems with shedding using a one or two bucket ONR method?
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Hmmm, you know, I haven't taken that into consideration.



When I do a conventional wash, I use two 5 gallon buckets and agitate the mitt against the grit guard in the rinse bucket as well. But when I do QEW/ONR washes, I've always used one 3 gallon or so bucket with no grit guard, and usually only use around 2/2.5 gallons of water.



I figured if I'm going to break out the two 5 gallon buckets, I might as well take out the hose as well and just do a conventional wash. I haven't noticed any marring as a result of using one bucket with ONR, so for me, I've never felt the need to use two. But I might have to try it once just to see if it would've helped with the loose hairs not getting on the panel–or at least cut down on the amount.



I too prefer sheepskin over anything else (I still have to try the grout sponge, so we'll see) but when I use the MF mitt, after presoaking the panel, I basically just hold it by the collar and run it over the panel, letting the weight of the mitt do the work. For the vertical panels, I hold it by the collar and with my other hand, apply just enough pressure on the mitt to keep it against the panel. So far, it's been working out pretty well.
 
Dailyshine:



Yeah - with ONR I use a 5 gallon bucket w/ about 2-2.5 gallons of ONR wash solution and a grit guard and then another 5 gallon rinse bucket with about 2.5 gallons of rinse water and a grit guard. I also pre-treat each panel with a quick squirt of QD strength ONR before washing.



I'm just paranoid about marring and that's why I use the ONR QD, the two bucket method w/ grit guards, and sheepskin mitts when doing the ONR thing. However, the two bucket method might be a big part of why I haven't had any issues with shedding on my car or in my wash bucket.
 
Tried out a 'hydrophilic' sponge from the HD cleaning section this weekend. Comes in a 2-pack. It is real similar to a grout sponge, same size, color, rounded corners and edges. Slight sheen to the material as compared to the grout sponge. My HD didn't have the individual grout sponges, just the ones in the 6-pack, and the fellow helping me said they hadn't had them for months. This hydrophilic sponge seemed a bit softer, promised that it held 'more' water (compared to what?) and rinsed cleanly.



I really liked how easy the sponge was to grip, and how cleanly it rinsed.



But when I switched back to a plush microfiber, I went a lot faster and the cleaning seemed much better with less or no pressure. One reason for it being faster is that I fold the towel in quarters and then get eight clean swipes before rinsing it out (4 surfaces per side). The towel took off more dirt and dealt with the stains, spots and bugs better. I also found it easier to get into nooks and crannies.



I respect those of you who love sponges, and I'm happy to hear if there are tips for using them. But for now, I'm back to a plush microfiber.
 
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