ONR at the coin-op - a disappointment in the first go round

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abbeysdad

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Background:

http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/79588-onr-rules.html



In searching for the best way to keep the vehicles protected and clean through the evil northeastern winters...about 6 months of cold, snow and SALT!

ONR seems like the ticket and I'm sold with the product.



But, I also know that there will be those week-end days that are just too cold for the regular ONR wash in the unheated garage. So, I was thinking that the gallon sprayer w/ONR and the coin-op might be an option (as it's faster - just don't want to use their harsh soap).



I went to the coin-op, sprayed her down with ONR and set the wash to RINSE. The lower panels were covered with dirty road spray that had dried on. ONR and the power wash on rinse were no match for this grime, that just sat there.

I came home defeated and did a regular ONR wash.



If the ONR / coin-op is to work, I'll need something (like a mitt or brush) to get stubborn dirt in suspension before the rinse. I think I'll take my brush next time. I'm also thinking that with this method, I may want a slightly higher concentration of ONR in the spray mix - perhaps 4-6oz ONR/1 gal water (closer to QD concentration).



Still think I'm on the right track, just need process improvement.
 
Yeah, washing your car in wintertime in the NorthEast = :( :angry :bolt



I do the same think at the coin-op with the only difference is i spray rinse (water only) down the car first to get off most of the debris / dirt and then i will use ONR. I use the 2 bucket method though i think i will switch to your method using the pump sprayer. That seems much easier and prob a bit better for my cold hands.
 
The thought of spreading dirt around with a mitt or brush... It would bother me, but I am glad you guys are pioneering this and working out the kinks. :-)
 
mg031 said:
Yeah, washing your car in wintertime in the NorthEast = :( :angry :bolt



I do the same think at the coin-op with the only difference is i spray rinse (water only) down the car first to get off most of the debris / dirt and then i will use ONR. I use the 2 bucket method though i think i will switch to your method using the pump sprayer. That seems much easier and prob a bit better for my cold hands.
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This is pretty much what I do as well ('cept with QEW rather than ONR, which I still need to try) . . . I power wash off any heavy grime, then use QEW with warm water and two buckets. It's worked well for me for the last few Nebraska winters, and our DOT isn't skimpy with the salt or sand.



Tort
 
yeah, ONR is great but you should always do it proplery... a lot of those coin op use heated water in the winter, find one that does and you'll be set with the 2 bucket method.



If you are using standard buckeds with lids, pick up an extra lid and cut a small hole in the middle, so when you spray the water in, it doesnt go all over the place = ]
 
You have to believe in the ONR force. Seriously I was a skeptic, this stuff really does work. I washed 2 of the dirtiest cars ever yesterday with 2 buckets in the garage. These cars had not been washed in months or even years. The ONR took the grime off no problem with out marring, although the cars got a through polishing afterwards. I was very impressed. Of course use common sense, you can't dump a bucket of sand on the hood, then expect ONR to magically lift it off. :bow



Steve



Sergei said:
The thought of spreading dirt around with a mitt or brush... It would bother me, but I am glad you guys are pioneering this and working out the kinks. :-)
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I just did a F150 Black Supercrew this morning that was pretty dirty. I used the ONR with no problem. I use it more than conventional washes now. Great stuff!
 
Abbey, I think it's good to have this as a data point. I appreciate your report.



Wasn't the car "somewhat" cleaner? While I can clearly see it wouldn't be perfect, I'd think getting the bad stuff off would at least be a "feel good" thing, no?
 
I think I ordered a gallon from you last week, where is it? :laugh: Can't wait for more:bounce

:xyxthumbs

Steve





Juztang said:
I just did a F150 Black Supercrew this morning that was pretty dirty. I used the ONR with no problem. I used it more than conventional washes now. Great stuff!
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abbeysdad said:
Background:

http://autopia.org/forum/detailing-product-discussion/79588-onr-rules.html



In searching for the best way to keep the vehicles protected and clean through the evil northeastern winters...about 6 months of cold, snow and SALT!

ONR seems like the ticket and I'm sold with the product.



But, I also know that there will be those week-end days that are just too cold for the regular ONR wash in the unheated garage. So, I was thinking that the gallon sprayer w/ONR and the coin-op might be an option (as it's faster - just don't want to use their harsh soap).



I went to the coin-op, sprayed her down with ONR and set the wash to RINSE. The lower panels were covered with dirty road spray that had dried on. ONR and the power wash on rinse were no match for this grime, that just sat there.

I came home defeated and did a regular ONR wash.



If the ONR / coin-op is to work, I'll need something (like a mitt or brush) to get stubborn dirt in suspension before the rinse. I think I'll take my brush next time. I'm also thinking that with this method, I may want a slightly higher concentration of ONR in the spray mix - perhaps 4-6oz ONR/1 gal water (closer to QD concentration).



Still think I'm on the right track, just need process improvement.
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i didnt know you could just spray onr on the vehicle and then rinse and dry . . . i always use it with a wash mit, 2 bucket method....



i like the spray bottle idea. . . . you could keep the soloution pre mixed with litte waste . . .



that grime isnt coming off of your car even with the high pressure at the coin op ? wow, you must have some pretty rough junk on your roads . . . .



good luck:nixweiss
 
I think abbey is using this strategy for those days when it's too cold and the spray car wash is the most one can tolerate....
 
fdizzle said:
i see . . . . forgive me for being naieve - im in cali. "cold" here is 50 degrees . .
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:) No problemo.



You haven't lived 'til you've been to the spray car wash, had your doors freeze in the closed position and have your suspension locked in place by freezing water!!! Now those were the days ! :grinno:
 
tom p. said:
:) You haven't lived 'til you've been to the spray car wash, had your doors freeze in the closed position and have your suspension locked in place by freezing water!!! Now those were the days ! :grinno:
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That's funny. One time that happened to me and the only door I could manage to get open was the back, and had to crawl up to the drivers seat thru the back of my tahoe..haha
 
So true, one winter my BMW had moisture in the sleeve that covers the cable the pops the door lock. Everytime it went below freezing I'd get locked in my car. :lock:



Steve



tom p. said:
:) No problemo.



You haven't lived 'til you've been to the spray car wash, had your doors freeze in the closed position and have your suspension locked in place by freezing water!!! Now those were the days ! :grinno:
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well, what's even worse is when you're at the spray wash place on Sat, your car is running, the doors are frozen shut, the owner is complaining and the people in line are ragging on you too! :argue





"What's a matter wit you? Can't you see the 'No Hand Washing' sign?" :nixweiss
 
tom p. said:
:) No problemo.



You haven't lived 'til you've been to the spray car wash, had your doors freeze in the closed position and have your suspension locked in place by freezing water!!! Now those were the days ! :grinno:
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hahahah - i am so never moving to where that even has a chance of happeneing. WOW:shocked
 
tom p. said:
Abbey, I think it's good to have this as a data point. I appreciate your report.

Wasn't the car "somewhat" cleaner? While I can clearly see it wouldn't be perfect, I'd think getting the bad stuff off would at least be a "feel good" thing, no?
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Yes and no. The lower panels along the sides of the Rendezvous are plastic. The painted metal portions remain much cleaner, but then they are the higher portions and this was dirty road spray that dried on (the plastic). It would only 'clean up' just a little with the power spray, but later wiped off reasonably with the ONR wash.



I still think spraying the vehicle with the ONR mix, then a quick once over with my Megs wash brush (no worries because of the excellent lubrication), THEN a rinse with the power wash and we'd be cookin!

I'm gonna give this a try next. At the same time, to further ensure success, I'm going to use ONR at eith 4oz. or (QD strength) 6oz/1 gal water. This should ensure plenty of lube for the brush. I think this is reasonable since I've found that with the spray method, I use about 1 quart of the mix (4-6oz. of ONR would yield 4 washes).
 
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