One Two Punch

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00GREENMACHINE

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Guys I am looking for a 1-2 punch to work on some cars. I need something that will take out 95% of swirls and defects and then a follow up polish that will restore that deep shine. Am I dreaming?? I have heard some good things about Meguairs 105 and 205. I will be using a porter cable da polisher. I have some 6" LC Orange/White/Black pads. I also have the 4" spot buff white and yellow pad.
 
It comes down to technique more so than product. I have used 205 and 105 with great success. Start with the 105 first and see how that does. If they are still there shift up to the 205 or to a more agressive pad or both.
 
Stephan said:
It comes down to technique more so than product. I have used 205 and 105 with great success. Start with the 105 first and see how that does. If they are still there shift up to the 205 or to a more agressive pad or both.
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Other way around I think.
 
I would start out with the 205 (less abrasive) and the white pad on a 2'x2' and work the area and see if you can remove the swirls. If not the 105(more aggressive) and the orange pad should do the trick.
Is the yellow pad an aggressive cutting pad (yellow) or a fine polishing pad (gold). As was pointed out to me earlier this week, this is important to know.
 
guys im trying out the 105 and 205 this weekend. Do I need to use a white poad on both or a black pad on the 205 to finish? I might top it with some nattys blue.
 
00GREENMACHINE said:
guys im trying out the 105 and 205 this weekend. Do I need to use a white poad on both or a black pad on the 205 to finish? I might top it with some nattys blue.
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You should use a 5.5" orange pad with the 105, then follow with 205 via a 5.5" white pad. Be sure to work in small sections for optimun results :dance2
 
Joe Dirt said:
You should use a 5.5" orange pad with the 105, then follow with 205 via a 5.5" white pad. Be sure to work in small sections for optimun results :dance2
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i almost wonder if the 4" pads would be better. The panels on the x3 are not big at all. There are a lot of lines on the fenders also. I know the orange pad I have is really stiff.
 
105 and 205 are a pleasure to work with, comparded to some others i have used. I would start with 105 looking at the pics. although I have corrected some nasty swirls with 205/orange on the flex da. remember to do a test section first, prime your pads, and clean on the fly. you may need 2-3 pads for each compound or polish.
 
Guys i worked on the hood this weekend. I used the 6" pad orange with the 105 and still have some swirls in it. Man this thing is going to kill me!!! I'm going to get a new 4" pad, I just like using it better and because I like to rush things it will work better because I will be forced to work in a smaller area. I have a yellow spot buff and a white it. The white one is really soft and probably has zero cut. The yellow is stiffer almost like my 6" orange one. Can anyone recommend a good cutting 4" pad.
 
kevin brown method?? explain also I did the pasangers doors last night twice with 105 on a 4" yellow spot buff pad and there is still scratches in the panal. I panals on my x3 are not very big and I cant get into all areas. Im not saying it doesnot look better but.. Is there a more aggressive pad I can use? I just cant believe the 105 is not getting the paint into prestine condition to polish and seal.
 
00GREENMACHINE said:
Guys i worked on the hood this weekend. I used the 6" pad orange with the 105 and still have some swirls in it. Man this thing is going to kill me!!! I'm going to get a new 4" pad, I just like using it better and because I like to rush things it will work better because I will be forced to work in a smaller area. I have a yellow spot buff and a white it. The white one is really soft and probably has zero cut. The yellow is stiffer almost like my 6" orange one. Can anyone recommend a good cutting 4" pad.
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These "Genuine Cyclo" pads are the best and longest lasting 4 inch pads available anywhere at any price. Take notice of the hook and loop backing and how it is double glued, not only is the velcro glued to the foam but there is a bead of glue around the outer edge of the velcro as well that prevents the velcro from coming unglued like L.C. pads do.

http://www.autogeek.net/cyclo-pads.html

I personally like the orange for cutting more so than the yellow cutting pads but either will work well. I like the orange pads because they have a stiff more dense feel to them and hold more of the product near to the paint for faster correction. The yellow cutting pads have larger pores in the foam and are less stiff and absorb more of the product deep into the pad.

If you go with these and choose yellow instead of orange, be sure not to get the yellow scrubbing pad by mistake, while they do clean off oxidation well they are not so good for cutting defects from the paint.
 
sounds like I need orange for cutting and the blue or white to put on the polish. Can the blue white be used for something like Nattys or a pure Carnuba? I guessing my 4" spot buff backing plate will work.
 
well I got a chance to use the orange and blue pads from cyclo. my 4" backing plate takes up all the velcro space. I did the real panel with Poorboys Professional Polish and orange. It looks better but I can still see swirls. I stepped up to 105 and still see the swirls. Maybe its going to take like 3-4 times per panel to get corrected. I do like doing it better at night you can really see the defects. Oh and I marked a line on the pad to be sure it was moving and it is. Is it safe to run the orange pad on speed 6 with the 105 or PP?
 
Given your EM address, assuming you have a BMW, yes, you can use the 105 w/ an orange pad w/ the PC. I have used both this and PoorBoy's SSR3 on speed 6 on my BMW, and like you, it takes multiple passes to get rid of the deeper swirls. In fact, I haven't gotten rid of every last one of them, but quite frankly, it just got to be time to move on w/ other things in my life, haha, so I am satisfied, for now, w/ about 90% correction.

I then used a medium polish (both the 205 and SSR2.5) as a next step, then finished w/ SSR1 or Menzerna PO85RD on a Lake Country black pad. My technique was not good enough to finish w/ the medium polishes to my satisfaction.
 
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