Old School Autopian Check In !!!

I`m glad to see so many old-timers posting here again! Sorry that I`m not chiming in all the time to welcome people back, please don`t take it as disinterest.


Ah, I recall him saying Souveran was P21s, just a different fragrance, way back when. People have also always said P21s and S100 are the same thing too

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. I used Souveran on the Jag for ages..my fave LSP on that paint, and when I tried doing it with P21s it looked so horribly different that I promptly stripped that [stuff] off and redid it with Souveran..all better. The P21s might look OK on something else, but not on that car, not to my eyes. P21s looked a lot more like M16 or maybe Collinite 845; it was a "bright reflective" wax, moreso than the Souveran by a huge margin.
 
I was never sure about the Souveran vs P21S myself so I kept on using the Souveran instead of switching and experimenting. It’s amazing on black even looks damn good on white!
 
I wish David would have replied to my post. He sure seemed pretty adamant that they were the same thing, and I have to believe he of all people would know.

He is actually claiming that Wolfgang Fusion = Pinnacle Souveran = S100 = P21S. Someone is arguing with him about the waxes being different and he basically replies with, believe as you wish, I founded Autopia-CarCare and the Autopia forum, sold to PBMA. Prior to that worked with Classic Motoring Accessories which created Souveran (rebranded P21S with a satin bag)."
 
TGates- I`m cool with the "believe what you wish", and/but I do wish David were chiming in.

This is like some of the waxes TOL used to sell that were supposedly identical to [other LSPs]. Side-by-side on the same vehicle was good enough for me to make up my mind.

So, FWIW, since gee, who really knows?!? and..who really cares?!? ;) ...I`d just recommend trying `em out side-by-side on a paint you know very well. Then make up your own mind and, well...let anybody else believe what he likes :D
 
I think there are lots of products that are the same sold under different labels. At one time I had S100 and while it was nice, it didn`t last more than a couple weeks. I personally think those products are a waste of time and money. Unless your car sits inside 75% of the time don`t bother with them.
 
Been away for a while, but been on here since 2001!

Yeah, can`t believe it`s been almost 20 years ago that I joined. I`ve been away for a long time myself since my last check-in. To be frank, hip and back problems have all but put a stop to a lot of what I used to do on my cars including detailing. I still do my best to keep them maintained but long gone are the days of spending a weekend let alone a couple hours polishing, etc.

Age and old injuries are finally catching up to me. lol
 
Old School (pre-2010) Autopians Check In!!!



For anyone that’s been on the board for a while it would be awesome to just have you say hi to let us know you still browse the forum. Let’s say anything prior to a join date of 2010. The 100th person will receive an Autopia short sleeve T-Shirt. (shipped free within the US)

Feel free to post a comment or 2 about how you found out about the forum and any memories from back in the day you’d like to share.



If I notice someone lurking and not posting :silenced: I’m going to call you out so you better start :typing:


really didn`t know you guys were still online... been a good while for me as well but good to know you`re still around. when i order stuff i think it still comes from the same company i did when i ordered from you.
 
If Autopia goes away, there`s going to be a serious void for me because I browse this forum multiple times a day every single day. I too can`t believe how many years it`s been.
 
If Autopia goes away, there`s going to be a serious void for me because I browse this forum multiple times a day every single day. I too can`t believe how many years it`s been.

I agree, there is a lot of great information here. Above that there are many fine folks that will help anyone out with any problem or question.
Thanks Everyone !
 
I`m still here. I still stop in regularly to browse. Especially this time of year when my interest in detailing begins to go up as the weather gets warmer. It seems as though the forum isnt as active as it used to be which makes me a little sad. This is where my passion started and I`ve learned so much over the years. I don`t have as much time to obsess over detailing as I used to but it`s still one of my favorite hobbies. Told my wife yesterday that I need to wash her car and says "didn`t you just wash it?" Yeah, like 3 weeks ago. That`s basically an eternity for me haha.
 
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