OK...Got Poorboys...

Jeff I think you will be ok considering Steve Poorboy posts here and his protege natty. From my experience really easy to use. The Ex is like UPP in application.
 
EX Expectations

I have no experience with the polish, but I really like EX!!

I put a total of three coats of EX over 3X S100. Absolutely no proplem with bonding. I used the MF applicator that came with the product and used it damp. EX went on nicely and it was easy to put it on in a thin layer. I let the EX set for an hour. I came off easily with a MF towel.

The gloss and depth of three coats of EX easily matches the gloss and depth of 3X S100 - or the 3X UPP on my wife's Silver Spruce Avalon.

What I value most about this product is that you can put it over practically anything. The last coat went over an application of Mother's Phase 2 Sealer and Glaze. To me this is most important for my Black Santa Fe. The S&G fills in most of the surface imperfections in Hyundai's mediocre paint. EX then gives me the shine and hopefully the lasting protection that I look for in a sealant/wax.

I like this product.

really :D
 
Jeff,

My understanding is that the EX should be given 24 hours before anything is layered on it............... but ask Poorboy to be sure. Also, If the EX is as good as I've heard, you may not need to top with S100.

Anyhow, it sure will be interesting to hear your thoughts on both those products.

Good luck.
 
Since the EX has carnuba in it I've not found any need to top it and maybe I screwed up but I don't wait to put on the second coat. I put it on right away.
 
I've already put 2 coat's of EX on one right after the other with no problem's and good result's.

The polish will pretty much remove anything that is on there previously. Buff it on until it hazes up and wipe off.

The polish with carnuba is also a real easy 1 step type of product. Offer's great result's too.
 
You guys could be absolutely correct on the application of the EX. It may be possible to layer right away? When Poorboy, or Natty stops by, I'm sure they will help out. Anyhow, I'm sure it wouldn't "hurt" anything, but might not be of any benefit either.
 
Here is a response from Steve on how long between coats.

I've waited an hour between coats and I've not waited at all...some people wait 24 hours
Do what you feel comfortable with...if you're doing it in the sun...maybe a half hour between coats...I'vwe also left it on overnight..indoors..morning dew will leave spots guess how I know
Durablity will not change from one to ten coats...but a deeper look is usually achieved by the third coat....
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Wow you guy have a conversation and don't tell me about it:rolleyes:

Abain thanks for the quote..and showing my spelling mistakes from after midnight writing:D

Using the Professional Polish is easy...just remember you don't need a lot...work it in with a pc or hand until it virtually disappears, then wipe it off. when you have nothing but a squeeky clean surface and very clean too..it's time to put the EX on...use a damp mf sponge applicator or sponge or just mf towel and apply evenly over entire vehicle and either wipe it off wait a while or wait a day ...it still comes off easy.

Jeff...since you're starting with a great finish this process will be very very easy..same for you Boss....

The only time I hear about people really working is if they have a lot of old product build up on the vehicle or use Zymol...that stuff is like removing ink from paper with an eraser...lots and lots of gunk coming up until you realy reach the finish...

Ok Natty..put the Assistant in her original upright position and answer some questions:p
 
Well, I'm a little surprised that multiple coats won't improve the durability, at least a little............... but whatever the case? If the durability is good to begin with, I guess it doesn't matter. At least the look will improve!
 
Bad with analogies

My wife always says my analogies don't make sense..but i guess growing up and seeing Yogi Berra speak a lot it rubbed off:rolleyes:

Boss if you have bullet proof glass...do you think two layers will make it better? See i told you ahead of time...

Yes Boss I guess it would improve a bit if you were abusing the finish by washing in the rain everyday;) but if you take polish to it , it will take one, two or ten layers off:eek:

So if you're saying that will more layers stand up against overwashing....ok I'll say yes...will it give more UV protection ..yes ...

ok stop asking me to answer questions at 2am when i should sleeping;)
 
Poorboy,

Actually, I like the fact that I will be able to put a couple of coats of your EX on in a day, and see an improvement in looks (to a point.... I know), and if the byproduct is a little better durability........ then so much the better.

And no, I don't wash my truck "everyday" in the rain.......... it justs rains everday! :D

Anyhow, for people who want to purchase your stuff, this is all good stuff for them to know. :cool:
 
Yesterday, after I saw some marring on the hood (High-pressure sodium vapor parking garage lighting) I put a layer of S100 on about a quarter of the hood.

In the "dry," I could absolutely not see any difference in the gloss or depth. Today, we had a torrential downpour. Again, there was absolutely zero difference in beading. The application of S100 on top of EX was a waste of time and material.
 
That's quite a compliment to the looks of EX............. don't ya think?
 
EX is an excellent stand alone product. I have topped EX with Souveran and P21S. Not significant difference but I did cure my carnuaba "jones".
This fact that EX being great alone has allowed me to only use EX during the hot spring / summer months ( Very hot here in South) and not experience the carnuaba-alone melt hazy that I normal get after car sits in sun all day at work. This micro-liquidification allows dust and dirt to stick to finish. EX seems to be less prone to this even with its carnauba content.:cool:
 
I'm back. The last week or so has been crazy busy at work and at home. Thats what I get for taking a few days vacation! Also, I did manage to get out for a few hours of fly-fishing over the weekend. Weather was crappy so detailing wasn't an option so on went the raingear and to the streams I went.

Seems like all the info needed has already been given. I'll just stress that with the Pro Polish continue to work until it is almost gone. Stopping while the product is still workable will take more effort to buff off and not fully utilize the micro-abrasives.

As for layering EX....done it but like most others here never really gone long enough to gauge if it makes a difference in durability. It does definetly make a difference from one-2-3 coats looks wise. At least from my eye. If the weather ever improves I'm doing the UPP/EX combo.

Natty
 
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