Not impressed with zaino

The thing is that most PERCIEVE Zaino to be difficult. The first time seems to be hard and for the VERY FIRST TIME you do it, it is. But after that it becomes second nature and is very easy. When I first did the full Zaino treatment from Dawn to final Z-6 misting (total of 3 Z-5 layers) on my 92 Stealth TT (before I got my Z) it took me almost 12 hours.



When the Z came, I did the same steps and dropped my time down to just over 5 hours.



About 6 months later, I did my sisters car and had it down to 4 hours and just this weekend, I did the same thing for my dad's car as a birthday present and did it all in just under 4 hours.



This is the FULL Zaino process.



Maintenance is EXTREMELY EASY! I wash with Z-7 dry, Z-6 and put on usually one or two Z-2's with ZFX and it is all done in a matter of 3 hours.



I admit that I go overboard and you don't NEED to layer it like I do.



A simple Z-7 wash dry and Z-6 misting takes under an hour and the car looks GREAT.



Trust me, it isn't as hard as it sounds and the reward is an awesome looking car.
 
Ok this is really bugging me now.. How is it that zaino is more work than any other sealant??



Zaino steps:

-Dawn Wash: 30 mins, including drying time

-Z1: 10 - 15 mins to apply, since you don't wipe it off and you dont have to be too neat about it

-z5 or z2: 20 mins to apply

-60 min. wait, buff off: 20 mins.

TOTAL TIME: 2.5 hours.



Klasse:

regular car wash: 30 mins, including drying time

AIO: 20 mins to wipe on, wipe off

SG: 20 mins to apply

wait time: general concensus is 60 mins to dry. buff off: 20 mins.

TOTAL TIME: 2.5 hours



This is not including prepping w/ smr or anything... The only difference this would make for zaino is that u'd dawn wash right after, which should only take like 15 mins anyway, since the car is already clean and free of dirt after prepping.



After the first application of z1 you dont need to use it again for a while.. and if you do it only adds on another 15 mins at most anyway.
 
I'm with you, raymond_ho2002. I really don't understand this "Zaino takes too much time" or "costs too much" argument. :nixweiss A bottle of Z2 lasts me a couple of years. (Admittedly, I'm not trying to apply 50 coat/year -- half-a-dozen will get the old Jag thru the season just fine.)



You wash and clay before Zaino just like before any other carnauba/polymer.



You polish/prep before Zaino just like before any other carnauba/polymer.



Then I apply my Z6 just like I'd do any other QD.



Then I apply Z2/ZFX just like my Klasse SG. By the time I've applied it, it's ready to be buffed off. Then I top with another Z6 QD.



Just like with Klasse, I can apply the Z2 to the paint, glass, rubber, vinyl, and plastic.



So ... What's the big deal?? Zaino lasts a heckuva long time. It repels birdbombs and waterspots. Lasts and lasts and lasts, and gives me a great finish.



I'm not one to say Zaino is the be-all and end-all of sealants. Heck, I'm using Z on the white Jag, and Klasse on the "champagne" Benz. They're both great, in my view. I really don't understand the need to bash Zaino. :nixweiss
 
Smoker said:
Go with the Klasse.



If you get it right with SG and top it with S100 you'll love the result!





Much easier (and cheaper) to use too.



You might wanna consider UPP over AIO too.



UPP is much much easier to use than either Zaino or SG and gives an awesome shine with alot of protection.

That too can be topped with S100.



Example of AIO/UPP topped with S100:



2001 Nissan Maxima.



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klasse huh. Well your vehicle doesn't look any better than mine with Zaino. Actually mine looks a little better because I took the time to do the wheels/tires/wheel wells :). See 4 urself.



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I too think Klasse is much simpler. Too many processes to follow and too many products to use with Zaino. Klasse done right and topped looks very nice.

God I wish I had a garage
 
Z1 (AIO) , Z2 or Z5 (SG), let dry and buff. Z6 (Sonax) when needed

Z2 or Z5 plus ZFX (SG), let dry and buff. Z6 (Sonax) when needed





What is so complicated or difficult to comprehend? What is so different when using Klasse? :nixweiss



Where is the imagined extreme cost differential or extreme effort difference( brain usage )?



PREP is the same for ALL products for the best results.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
Z1 (AIO) , Z2 or Z5 (SG), let dry and buff. Z6 (Sonax) when needed

Z2 or Z5 plus ZFX (SG), let dry and buff. Z6 (Sonax) when needed





What is so complicated or difficult to comprehend? What is so different when using Klasse? :nixweiss



Where is the imagined extreme cost differential or extreme effort difference( brain usage )?



PREP is the same for ALL products for the best results.
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thank you edwin! :xyxthumbs

I too was quite lost why people were complaining about "extra steps". There is none!
 
Like some others above, I think the problem might be your silver car.



My wife's car is silver, and I don't really like the look of Zaino on it. I recently removed it and applied Einszett instead, and it looks a lot better now. The conventional wisdom is that silver cars benefit from reflectivity more than depth, but in my opinion the opposite is true. A little depth can really make a silver car look good.



On the other hand, I am not all that wild about Einzett on my blue Jeep. I prefer Zaino. It's just a matter of personal preference.
 
Dude, your comments make sense to me. And blkZ28Conv, I love how you laid out the steps.



Once a car is prepped, there are just two Zaino products to use: Z2 or Z5 (preferably augmented with ZFX) as the sealant, and Z6 as the QD. How the heck is this "too many products/steps" or "too much time"??? :nixweiss I have a hunch that lots of Z-bashers just don't have any experience with the product. Folks can compare the look (wet vs. shine, deep vs. reflective) til the cows come home, and that's legitimate, but I just don't see how anybody can complain that Z requires some "multiplicity" of products or more time than other sealants.
 
Am i the only one who finds it weird that someobody mentions they think zaino is more complicated than other products....and then the thread fills up with everybody pretty much saying the same thing?
 
Now you see why Zaino (Sal) does not market his product mainstream. We as a society have forgotten how to read, digest what we have read and apply. If a set of directions are more than a few lines the reader views this as too complicated. :nixweiss
 
stanger99 said:
Am i the only one who finds it weird that someobody mentions they think zaino is more complicated than other products....and then the thread fills up with everybody pretty much saying the same thing?
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Yes, you are. The same goes with plenty of other products, so I don't recommend stereotyping Zaino users that way.
 
nEJIbMEHb:



What you are describing is exactly what Zaino is supposed to do. Protection without altering/coloring the original look of the paint. If you were looking to obtain the shine that you see in the pictures posted, then you would need to prep your paint to try to get/bring out the best possible shine before you use Zaino.



From your description, you are applying Zaino the original way, without using ZFX, which is perfectly acceptable and the time for curing or hazing takes a lot longer. The end results are the same. A quote from the Zaino site:

ZFXâ„¢ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive saves you time and effort. It's no longer necessary to keep your car in the garage for a whole weekend just so you can apply two or three coats of polish. Using ZFXâ„¢ Flash Cure Accelerator Additive, you'll apply multiple coats in just a few hours.
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Without using ZFX, 1 or 2 coats a day was probably the best one could expect to do, depending on your weather conditions. Application and removal of Zaino is relatively fast and easy, so the waiting/curing time is the only variable.
 
BW said:
Yes, you are. The same goes with plenty of other products, so I don't recommend stereotyping Zaino users that way.
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How dare you criticize people for not reading directions carefully and then drawing a faulty conclusion yourself! I challenge you to find one statement i have made in this thread that makes a single generalization about zaino users.



My statement was neither pro-zaino, nor anti-zaino. I was commenting on the fact that the latter half of the thread pretty much said the same thing. I agree that zaino is not complicated and anybody unable to figure it out should spend a little time reading through the archives. But....realizing that it had already been said enough, i didn't comment. I make a comment about how the thread has become repetitive and here comes the old boys club.
 
stanger99 said:
How dare you criticize people for not reading directions carefully and then drawing a faulty conclusion yourself! I challenge you to find one statement i have made in this thread that makes a single generalization about zaino users.



My statement was neither pro-zaino, nor anti-zaino. I was commenting on the fact that the latter half of the thread pretty much said the same thing. I agree that zaino is not complicated and anybody unable to figure it out should spend a little time reading through the archives. But....realizing that it had already been said enough, i didn't comment. I make a comment about how the thread has become repetitive and here comes the old boys club.
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I never criticized anyone in this thread for not reading directions carefully...

I notice what we write is different from the intended meaning...

Maybe in your opinion, I'm assuming incorrectly?



:nixweiss



I guess we misinterpreted our statements? I don't know if my tone is as mean, but I'm not sure what provoked the "how dare you!" If anything, not my intentions.
 
BW said:
I guess we misinterpreted our statements? I don't know if my tone is as mean, but I'm not sure what provoked the "how dare you!" If anything, not my intentions.
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BW, don't worry about it buddy... You're dealing with a guy with quite a history when it comes to Zaino threads.



He says, "My statement was neither pro-zaino, nor anti-zaino" LMAO!! nothing like a good laugh to get my day started! :D
 
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