Not Happy With Cyclo?

Accumulator said:
I too have 'em all (and now I have two of each :o ). Heh heh, easy for us to spend his money huh? Sure is nice being able to choose just the right tool for the job though.
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I agree Accumulator! I've even thought about getting a Dynabrade (sp?) in case I needed even more RO oomph (for lack of a better term).
 
Very happy with my Cyclo. Won't correct paint as fast as a rotary but faster than a PC. I still use the PC too, some areas I can't get into with the Cyclo, I can with the PC and the opposite is also true.
 
RCBuddha said:
I I've even thought about getting a Dynabrade (sp?) in case I needed even more RO oomph (for lack of a better term).
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Heh heh, same here...I even called around until I found a local autopaint/body place that had one in stock. I'm resisting the temptation so far.



What do you wanna bet that one of us is gonna buy one of David's new machines :o



Sneek- Oh man, he *loves* it, and doesn't even feel the need to keep other types of rotaries around the way I do. If you don't value the trigger that the others have, the Metabo is very, very nice. But there have been some reports of them overheating when used for extended periods at very slow speeds, something that doesn't happen with the Makita.
 
Minus the cord issues, the Cyclo is a great polisher. I would much rather polish with it than my Metabo. I reserve the Metabo for cars with medium/heavy defects and customers who are willing to pay for rotary work. I have only run into a few instances where I could not get the Cyclo into a tight spot. It is all about how you position and maneuver the tool.
 
brwill2005 said:
Minus the cord issues, the Cyclo is a great polisher. I would much rather polish with it than my Metabo. I reserve the Metabo for cars with medium/heavy defects and customers who are willing to pay for rotary work. I have only run into a few instances where I could not get the Cyclo into a tight spot. It is all about how you position and maneuver the tool.
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brwill2005, That is about the best paragraph I have ever read on this web site concerning the cyclo! It pretty well sums up all the questions I have asked (not all). I have the cyclo, and intend to keep it!! There are things I don't like, but that is something I will handle in the after market !



The people that use it on this web site are masters in there own rite! "True Detailing" is a "Love" rather than a necessity for these individuals and you see them bringing out the cyclo when the absolute best is the objective! Simply look at the statistics, if you can spin your hand that fast, with out destroying what you are trying to accomplish, that is absolutely awesome, but impossible, the cyclo does it!!

Changeling
 
Accumulator said:
What do you wanna bet that one of us is gonna buy one of David's new machines :o
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I don't make bets I know I am gonna lose ;)



Still, not being able to use all pads that I have is putting a brake in my desire.
 
ZoranC said:
.. not being able to use all pads that I have is putting a brake in my desire.
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Yeah, that's what's keeping me from converting my stuff to the Edge system (which I expect will work fine with David's new machine...expected standardization and all that).
 
Accumulator said:
Yeah, that's what's keeping me from converting my stuff to the Edge system (which I expect will work fine with David's new machine...expected standardization and all that).
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Everything that David said sounds really intriguing, there are other questions though that would help a lot in a new machine like this.

I would REALLY like to see it have a 5/8's thread on the backing plate so this "two different threads" crap would go away forever, AKA PC/Rotary, what a PITA/cost. I would like to be able to use all my pads interchangeably with all tools, it just plain makes sense, who could possibly disagree with this?



A plastic case would also be a nice touch (that fits) with room for a long cord (or quality locking connection), a great cord, with a real strain relief that actually works and a quality "3 prong head". Why should anyone have to keep buying tools and then look for something to store them in?



If the tool itself is quality and works better than the PC and incorporates the qualities I consider "standard" for any good electronic tool (these days), I would really be interested in purchasing one, but it would have to have a really good evaluation from respected users. This all takes a good deal of time, it's not something that is going to suddenly appear as the cure all by any stretch of the imagination, and certainly not in the next few months as a lot of people seem to think.

Changeling
 
Changeling said:
.. I would REALLY like to see it have a 5/8's thread on the backing plate so this "two different threads" crap would go away forever, AKA PC/Rotary, what a PITA/cost. I would like to be able to use all my pads interchangeably with all tools, it just plain makes sense, who could possibly disagree with this?
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Devil's Advocate-type response: the beefier mounting sytsem of the rotary might be overkill for machines like the PC/Cyclo; the PC's system might not be sufficiently strong for a rotary. And changing either would disrupt an industry standard. Heh heh...just thinking out loud ;)



I guess I see it like the different drive sizes for socket sets or the different types of screwdrivers....the sort of thing I just put up with.
 
Changeling said:
Everything that David said sounds really intriguing, there are other questions though that would help a lot in a new machine like this.

I would REALLY like to see it have a 5/8's thread on the backing plate so this "two different threads" crap would go away forever, AKA PC/Rotary, what a PITA/cost. I would like to be able to use all my pads interchangeably with all tools, it just plain makes sense, who could possibly disagree with this?
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As long as majority of backing plates one might want to use with "PC-like" tool come in "PC" thread size I don't want a product that would force me to look for new backing plates and paint me in the corner (for example, 5" and 3.5" backing plates are not something you find everyday in 5/8" thread size). I would not buy such tool even if it cooks and cleans.



Not to mention that one doesn't need new tool to use 5/8" thread backing plates if (s)he wants to. $4.99 is all it takes for 5/8" X 11 D.A Adapter like one here:



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Just want to add my quick thoughts...I'm a fan of the Cyclo. I seem to have a bit more luck correcting problems on my hard VW clear with the Cyclo than with the PC regardless of pad size (although Accumulator, I'm sure, has more experience with what 4" pads on the PC can do). I also have more fun using it compared to the PC for whatever that's worth (and I haven't yet figured out exactly why that is).



Regarding noise, I find it to be about the same as when I'm using the PC, granted I rarely use the PC at speeds lower than 6 if I'm using it for polishing.
 
I just purchased my Cyclo, I own a PC and a Metabo rotary and I'm looking forward on using the Cyclo. I've heard great things about the Cyclo and the thing I'm really curious is the vibration that it produces compared to the PC. One thing I don’t like about the PC is the vibration and the Cyclo should fix this.
 
Nica- If you get a chance, let us know how you like the Cyclo. Given your experience with the metabo and the PC I'd find your take intersting.



Oh, and Welcome to Autopia!
 
I have a PC and DeWalt rotary and got the cyclo for those non rotary marring moments. Havent tried it yet, but my black Honda just started showing some micro marring........
 
Nica said:
I just purchased my Cyclo, I own a PC and a Metabo rotary and I'm looking forward on using the Cyclo. I've heard great things about the Cyclo and the thing I'm really curious is the vibration that it produces compared to the PC. One thing I don’t like about the PC is the vibration and the Cyclo should fix this.
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i've heard that the cyclo is very balanced compared to the PC.. i'm looking for one myself.
 
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