Non-Cleaning Sealer/Glaze

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I've polished my car with Megs #9, which I understand contains fillers and oils etc. I still have a few minor defects, but I don't want to polish any more than I have to. A good sealer/glaze should fix the rest I think.



I have some Klasse SG, but as I understand it, it doesn't work as well without AIO underneath it. However, the AIO's cleaning properties affect the #9 and therefore I am left with streaks, film, and haze.



I looked at Optimum Poli-Seal, but it looks like that also contains cleaners.



What is a good Sealer/Glaze that has NO cleaning properties? I just want something that will fill some defects and provide good protection. Preferably I want something that I can top with a pure wax for a little better look.



Can someone confirm that you need Klasse AIO underneath KSG. What would happen if I put the KSG on directly over the #9



Anyone use PoorBoy's EX-P?
 
You can Try RMG from Clearkote or Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze. Neither one of those have any cleaners in it, I dont believe.
 
I'm looking at teh Menzerna Finishing Glaze on Autogeek right now. It says:



Non-Abrasive: A true glaze

Remvoes old wax and residues



How can both of those be true?
 
II have never used that bottle. I have only used the bottle of Finishing Touch Glaze from CMA. It did not remove my LSP.
 
KSG over #9 probably wont bond due to the meg's proprietary oils that they use. Sealants have a tough time bonding to oils.



If you want a pure glaze with no cleaning abilities, Megs #5 and #7 are pure glazes. #5 is MUCH more user friendly and you can pick it up locally too.



Hope that helps.



Jim
 
VM and RMG both have slight cleaners.



Adams Spray Glaze may be something you are looking for, all the advantages of a glaze, with no cleaners.
 
kleraudio said:
KSG over #9 probably wont bond due to the meg's proprietary oils that they use. Sealants have a tough time bonding to oils.



If you want a pure glaze with no cleaning abilities, Megs #5 and #7 are pure glazes. #5 is MUCH more user friendly and you can pick it up locally too.



Hope that helps.



Jim
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That does help.



I looked at those and I was hoping to find something that is also a sealant. #5 and #7 are pure glazes. My wax of choice lately is Souveran, mainly for looks, so I was hoping that I could put something underneath that will fix the last few defects and give me some protection.



I also looked at PoorBoy's EX-P, which appears to be a sealant only (someone please confirm this).



So how would the combo of #7, EX-P, and Souveran work? Is there anyway to combine the #7 and EX-P into one step?
 
Less said:
So how would the combo of #7, EX-P, and Souveran work? Is there anyway to combine the #7 and EX-P into one step?
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Take out the EX-P and your golden, EX-P probably wont bond to well to the #7.



But, #7 topped with Souveran would look so SICK probably!



Jim
 
Sounds to me like people are considering some combos that aren't likely to work out too well :think: I simply wouldn't add KSG to this mix, period. It doesn't sound like the finish is nearly nice enough for a sealant like SG so I'd stick with the glaze/carnauba route.



I wouldn't put anything on top of #7 except a Meguiar's LSP or a carnauba. And I'd use #5 instead of #7.



There are glazes on the market that are supposed to work fine with sealants, but those would be used intead of the #7.



Since #9 does a fair bit of hiding on its own, I'd just stick with Meguiar's stuff and put some #5 over the #9 if you really want to add another product. Then Souveran if that's your LSP of choice. But I wouldn't want to start over-complicating the whole thing. I don't even know if the glaze after the #9 is gonna do all that much; #9 acts mighty glaze-like as it is, lots of concealing and richness from the oils so I'd expect you to be able to go from #9 to your LSP.



Also, I wouldn't consider Souveran (which I do use and like) to provide much protection, not by a long shot. So if it were mine, I'd put some Collinite over the #5. You could always then spit-shine Souveran over top of *that* if you really want to get that last little bit of improvement. I've done that and it worked out well...almost as nice as straight Souveran but a *lot* better protection-wise.



I still wonder if you oughta be using #80 after the #2 instead of going to #9.
 
I have had very nice results using Meg's #81 under Collonite 845. The 81 was far less oily and easier to remove, at least in my experience than the #7 and left a nice wet appearance.



I just received some Pinnacle paste from a fellow autopian that I intend to use as a topper over the Collonite for a bit more sizzle and pop.
 
I love the RMG, Pin. Sourveran combo myself. I wax at least every three weeks so durability no issue here.
 
Can someone explain why Meguiars has so many different glazes? I got so lost on Autogeek's Meguiars page...I had at least 4 of them open.
 
Heh heh, I'm just glad they still make all those different ones. I worry that they'll discontinue the #5.



My take on the different glazes- they're subtly different and people have their personal preferences.



#7 is old school with good brand recognition and is simply unsurpassed on single stage, but it can be tricky to use; #3 is easier to use (both by machine and by hand) and some pros are familiar with it so it sells well enough to keep making; #5 is popular in very humid areas and can be allowed to dry (the others should be buffed off while still a little wet). I worry that they'll discontinue it, even though it's the most user-friendly of the lot and what I use most often; #81 is also pretty user-friendly and is probably what they'd replace all the others with except that it doesn't always do just what those other products do. I'd probably use #81 instead of #3 except that I got used to the #3 first and it stays wet longer when applied by machine.



Between the #3 and the #81, I suspect that people get hung up on the "Machine" and "Hand" in the names, even though both products work perfectly well both ways. The only difference I can discern is a slightly longer work time with the #3, which I prefer.



Oh, and then there's the Deep Crystal step #2, which is like a cheap version of #81. I suppose they sell that because "consumer level" customers buy the whole Deep Crystal System in sufficient quantities to justify its production.
 
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