no name professional detailers

Accumulator said:
baseballover1- There are truly innumerable security issues that can factor in with regard to people putting personal info on the 'net. Some of us go through life on a need-to-know basis, and people viewing this stuff online don't need to know. Hey, I don't give my full name to strangers I meet in bars/etc. either.



Having a pro demonstrate a "simulated criminal inquiry" can be interesting, informative, and downright scary.
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Baseballover1 - DON'T LISTEN TO THIS ACCUMULATOR GUY.



Never mind his nearly 18,000 posts on here. He is clearly not trustworthy because he doesn't have his name posted here. :nervous: Crap! You can't believe me either, because I don't have mine on here either. It is utter chaos in here, people running around without names. I'm outta here! :bolt
 
mcc said:
Baseballover1 - DON'T LISTEN TO THIS ACCUMULATOR GUY. Never mind his nearly 18,000 posts on here. He is clearly not trustworthy because he doesn't have his name posted here.
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Daniel,



This Mobile Car Care guy is onto something. Especially with his choice of the words; not trustworthy.



Not trustworthy. And all the while we were being led to believe the real reason why some members who post in the Professional Detailers Forum have chosen not reveal either their name or any other identity was because of internet security. Internet security. Even the moderator of this forum said; That's the nature of the Internet, like it or not.



Well, the power of the internet works both ways. Case in point. In about a minutes time I easily discovered that one our nameless professionals who has been rather vocal on this topic, so vocal that one of his personal attack posts had to be removed by the moderator, clearly shows not only his name on another site, but his location, phone number, business name and email address. Talk about internet security. In this case, I think it is more a matter of not being trustworthy.



Since this is considered to be a professional detailers forum, I think we owe it to everyone involved in posting in this forum to be trustworthy. That is the least we can do as professionals. After all, being trustworthy is what our communications with each other should be built upon.



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mirrorfinishman said:
Daniel,



This Mobile Car Care guy is onto something. Especially with his choice of the words; not trustworthy.



Not trustworthy. And all the while we were being led to believe the real reason why some members who post in the Professional Detailers Forum have chosen not reveal either their name or any other identity was because of internet security. Internet security. Even the moderator of this forum said; That's the nature of the Internet, like it or not.



Well, the power of the internet works both ways. Case in point. In about a minutes time I easily discovered that one our nameless professionals who has been rather vocal on this topic, so vocal that one of his personal attack posts had to be removed by the moderator, clearly shows not only his name on another site, but his location, phone number, business name and email address. Talk about internet security. In this case, I think it is more a matter of not being trustworthy.



Since this is considered to be a professional detailers forum, I think we owe it to everyone involved in posting in this forum to be trustworthy. That is the least we can do as professionals. After all, being trustworthy is what our communications with each other should be built upon.



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Unless you are a customer of someone on here, there is no reason to need trust and no way to betray trust. If you are in fact purchasing products or service of some type from someone, I agree completely that names of both parties should be disclosed to each other.



However, if you are talking about merely exchanging information, I fail to see the significance of the person's name. You can not be scammed and if you're afraid that you'll be "scammed" by reading false information, I don't think anybody is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read (and believe) all information that is posted in the forum. It seems like if you have such an name issue, then you'd be better served by not reading any topics created by a nameless person.



Personally, I find you scarier than the nameless people on the forum. The mere fact that you want the personal information of everybody on the forum is A LOT more sketchy and un-trustworthy-feeling to me than someone who chooses not to disclose their personal info in order to exchange information.
 
I think Frank was initially concerned about giving his advice to a nameless person; which I can understand. With the Internet, everybody wants something easily and for free; that includes music and information etc. Many people post on the the professional forum seeking easy and free advice on how to start a detailing business. I think all Frank was saying is he would like to associate a name to the person he is passing this valuable information on to. After all, he has spent many years acquiring the information he provides. Honestly, I can not understand why someone would decide to do something as major as starting a business, and think they can get all the answers from one or two threads.
 
mcc said:
... DON'T LISTEN TO THIS ACCUMULATOR GUY.



Never mind his nearly 18,000 posts on here. He is clearly not trustworthy because he doesn't have his name posted here...
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Heh heh, yeah...I frequently warn people that I'm "just a semi-anonymous poster on an internet forum" as a way to reality-check them about this whole subject :D



Said warning usually comes right before the part where I encourage them to post back with feedback regarding my advice, both pro and con.



My encouraging people to post about how well my advice *works for them* seems like a simple way to ensure that everyone here knows how worthy of trust my postings are. And when I hear that something *didn't* work out, I can try to figure out *why* and perhaps give different advice in the future.



If I were a pro who was soliciting a detailing job, I'd just refer the prospect to reputable people who've seen my work first-hand, like somebody who wouldn't jeopardize his reputation to keep me happy (e.g., a senior concours judge).



To me, it's really all about what people see in person with their own eyes and experience first-hand. Everything else is a matter of trust and the risky business of making assumptions.
 
brwill2005 said:
.. With the Internet, everybody wants something easily and for free; that includes music and information etc....
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Good point, some threads have that "fishing for quick and easy info" feel about them, like responses are gonna end up in some article :think:
 
baseballlover1 said:
I think that everyone on here is buying into the dont give any personal information out on the web because you never know whos a pedophile crap.





,Daniel
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Daniel, does that mean when you're home alone you don't want me to bring over some beer and pizza so we can "chill"? We were just going to talk and do what good friends do. I swear, I just look older for my age but I'm really 15 also! I only have a beard because I come from a hairy family. Hope we can still kick it sometime, bro. :(
 
BlackElantraGT said:
Daniel, does that mean when you're home alone you don't want me to bring over some beer and pizza so we can "chill"? We were just going to talk and do what good friends do. I swear, I just look older for my age but I'm really 15 also! I only have a beard because I come from a hairy family. Hope we can still kick it sometime, bro. :(
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Pedobear alert!



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mirrorfinishman said:
Daniel,



Well, the power of the internet works both ways. Case in point. In about a minutes time I easily discovered that one our nameless professionals who has been rather vocal on this topic, so vocal that one of his personal attack posts had to be removed by the moderator, clearly shows not only his name on another site, but his location, phone number, business name and email address. Talk about internet security. In this case, I think it is more a matter of not being trustworthy.
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My information is on the Optimum forum because it is allowed there. The personal attack wasn't an attack at all. Just a little information that everyone here should know. PM me and I will share it with any of you, gladly. Tort thought is was too personal, but that doesn't mean it's not true or relevant
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Just to give this a bit broader perspective, there are quite a few of us on here who don't have to worry about being molested by a pedophile, so that's really not a factor when deciding whether to be "nameless".
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This is probably one of the funniest posts I've ever read.
 
When I found this site, I was JSATEK because that's my business name. J-S-A-Tech.

I didn't detail for anything but fun at the time, now its a business. My detail business name is Detailing Technology.

I don't hide, I have spoken to plenty of you on this forum on the phone and in person.



Guys like David Fermani and Scottwax are hiding.....haha
 
I have kids, and when they are on the computer - I'm not worried, not yet anyway... one plays games and the other is constantly downloading music on their ipod - and with dial up, that takes forever! My wife teaches and can tell you all you don't want to know about crack head kids, poor white thrash with brother-sister parents and other messed up individuals, she has done a great job teaching our kids what not to do and how to stay out of trouble. Me? I'm there to enforce the rules, so far there has been only a couple trips to the woodshed. Yes, all you panty wearing, dr spock reading morons, I do spank my kids when they mess up. Maybe ya'll have seen us at the mall or in a resturant, we're the family whose kids are NOT having tantrums and throwing fits. Old school rules!
 
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