No More Beading Action.....?

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Easter weekend I applied Klasse AIO to the hood of my wifes car ( experimenting)and I have noticed water no longer beads on the hood. Whats up with that? I thought it was a decent polish and sealer all in one. shouldn't the protection still be evident? Or is it?
 
This has been highly debated, some think AIO has lasting protection, others dont. I think its a great cleaner/polish, but not a good protectant. ymmv
 
I applied AIO on my car last week and after the first wash = no more beading. I used it as a beginning prep for my spring detail to come soon.
 
after doing some lengthy research on Klasse, I think the "no beading" is a result of your finish missing the SG on top of the AIO. I think Klasse AIO really needs the Sealant Glaze on top to complete the job. Klasse AIO alone is not sufficient for longevity. But I'm sure the gurus here on this forum will have a much better answer.
 
Could you use a good plain Carnuba wax/sealant. Something with no cleaners or polishers that won't degrade the AIO? I never heard or used S100 where can you get it?
 
AIO has two primary functions. First and foremost, it is a great paint cleaner. Second (and secondary), there is a slight amount of lasting protection comparable with many cleaner waxes. It *can* work as a one-step, but you won't write home about the lasting effects.



Depending on where you are in the Free State, look in boating supply stores and look for Meg's #16 in the blue can. S100 is also very nice and can be found at your local Harley shop. For an extra-durable, yet easy to apply solution, click on "Shop" above and visit the Autopia shop for some Einszett Glanz Wax.



Don't give up on the AIO. It's a great cleaner underneath just about anything.
 
From what I've read on these boards I thought the Klasse twins tend to sheet water instead of beading anyways so it doesn't necessarily mean either of them has worn off. Heck it even says on the AOI bottle that it will last up to 6 months and they would never lie. :rolleyes:
 
Scottwax said:
Not so fast. It is an excellent paint cleaner and you can use pretty much any wax or sealant over it. AIO + NXT is working very well for me.
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Well, wouldn't using a very mild polish like 1Z MP do the same thing?
 
MattZ28 said:
::crosses AIO off list::
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AIO is a really excellent product for the last polishing pre-protectant step. It is also a good one-step rim, door jams, engine compartment and chrome tail pipe cleaner and protectant.

Very good product for that quick strip down of present protectant and application ease and buffs off even easier with a very nice gloss and depth. AIO really sets-up the table well for whatever type of protectant you plan to use. :xyxthumbs



Duplication of function with 1Z MP? :nixweiss



My only regret about AIO. I delayed trying it for years. :doh
 
blkZ28Conv totally agree



As a 'one-step' product I've never (1960 - til now) been impressed, but as a prep product it take a lot to beat it.
 
MP and AIO are different. MP is a *very mild* abrasive with wax in it. It polishes and protects better than AIO. But AIO cleans better, although it does it chemically, not mechanically. If you have some stubborn polish residue (like PI-III MG) or some "road film", for instance, the AIO will clean it off much easier than the MP. The MP works best on a surface that's already clean.



Beading vs. sheeting- must depend on the vehicle/conditions/prep. I use the K twins on my Japanese vehicles, and they bead for many, many months (currently, the KSG is over seven months old and it's still beading, NOT sheeting, despite spot-claying with every wash).



AIO topped with #16 is a very nice, and very easy, combo. AIO by itself offers *very* little in the way of lasting protection, or at least its protection is very fragile- it gets washed/worn off rather quickly.
 
I'm going to do a coat of AIO, and then top it with 2 coats of their high gloss glaze per car I do. I think it should be enough to knock the socks off of the average person. Also, I will clay before. So the paint should be pretty nice after.
 
Buick_guy said:
I'm going to do a coat of AIO, and then top it with 2 coats of their high gloss glaze per car I do. I think it should be enough to knock the socks off of the average person. Also, I will clay before. So the paint should be pretty nice after.
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From what I have been told by members here, you have to wait 24 hours in order for the SG to cure, before applying another layer. Doing another layer before can not only cause hazing, but it will defeat the layering ability of the SG because it wont be "hard" enought. I cant tell you from personal experience, becuase ive always waited 24 hours:nixweiss . One coat of SG does look pretty darn good tho, hence my volvo thread.
 
About the AIO not beading anymore: Wash it next time and see if the paint still feels slick. Who knows, maybe it will start beading again?



I went through a similar thing with my wax-topped SG layers, but I am not totally sure if this was just from the topper wearing off or not. One day it started sheeting, but then it went back to beading later on....



In any case, I don't really trust beading/sheeting a whole lot by itself because of this. I like to see how slick it feels as well and make a "guestimate" based on that combined with water behaviour. JMO.
 
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