Nissan Skyline GT-R R33

My friend owns a shop that has a dyno, however the car has like intake and exkaust work and his custom built radiator and Intercooler. He never has cared to dyno his car. They are not fast cars by any means, they run 13's stock. I raced him in my V6 with 150 shot and it was a even race. The thing is it is an all around performance car.



They wider wheels on the back are great for looks and whatnot. The car when it senses slip in the rwd converts power to the fwd and creating awd.



Also the AXIS wheels do not have tires. The tires did not come until today this afternoon. What you are seeing is the wheel in front of the Volk wheels/Tires.
 
They wider wheels on the back are great for looks and whatnot. The car when it senses slip in the rwd converts power to the fwd and creating awd.
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Erm, yes. I know how a GT-R works :D .......



There is a reason why we don't run wider wheels on the rears of GT-R's, I was just trying to point that out and maybe save potential expense for the sake of a nice chrome lip...... Oh well...
 
awesome job on an awesome car! :xyxthumbs

compared to the supra, you can see the shine is up just a tad bit. ;)



13's stock is not fast? ;):p but you are right, they are great all-around performers. not to mention respond very well to mods (heard of the Godzilla Skyline?)



and real sports cars wear the V Spec badge.....;) just kidding wit'cha. :D
 
NYDetail said:
Nice Cars.. :xyxthumbs



Just one question.



What is the size of the tire? The side wall look's extremely thin. The wheel that look's bronze color Axis



Thanks
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The Axis wheels don't have tires on them. I think thats what you're referring to.
 
NavindraLR said:
C-MDX: i understand what u were saying now... good point



Monk_04SER: same thing.. every1 else new what i meant... just tryin to prove your smart and u know your cars huh? slow se-r owners...:rolleyes:
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Nah, no need to prove I'm smart. Just stating the obvious. And, yes compared to an RSX-S, my little SE-R slush o' matic is slow. I give much respect to the RSX. Just messing with you. I even looked at the RSX until I looked at the price tag. AH, the pleasures of being straight out of college. Anyways....



You really should get your buddy to dyno the GT-R. I would be interested to know what kinda numbers he puts out. I think those AXIS rims will look good. The bronze will look hot on there. Talk him into getting an S-AFCII. *evil grin*
 
There is a reason why we don't run wider wheels on the rears of GT-R's, I was just trying to point that out and maybe save potential expense for the sake of a nice chrome lip...... Oh well...
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Why is that? The 4wd system does not work on the width of the tire, but off of the g-force sensor, and the rotation speed of the rear wheel. So, how does the width play into the ATTESA(not sure if those are the correct letters, but its close:) )?
 
Thats kind of what I was thinking Bosscat, hence it then effects the drivetrain somewhere along the line but, it has something to do with additional workload on the transfer box from what I gather (not the diffs as I first thought... But still related...). I'm hoping someone will put me straight on the GTR Register so will let you know. :)
 
That's just it, I have seen it mentioned on more than one occation that the width of the rear tires will affect the input signal to the transfer case, but from the sensors involved I do not see how that could be possible. Width of the rear tires, is just that a wider tire, the rolling circumference is what the sensors are looking at, that and the signal from the g-sensor. This is the only way you can get any power to the transfer case. I have looked at the electrical schematics of the GTR, and I see no input from load sensor at the rear drive train. Please correct me if I am wrong.



I will be putting a much wider tire on my GTR in the rear, with the smaller width in the front, it will also help out with tramlining(sp), which if you run a very wide tire in the front, the car has a tendency to do.



If you have some good info, that I am totally wrong about, I would be very interested to hear.



Cheers:)
 
I asked on the GTR Register and the concensus seems that you should keep all widths the same but no one has given a detailed reason why, and I can't for the life of me find the info and threads that I originally got the info from :nixweiss .



One person did say the same as you... Just running a wider rear tyre (tire) shouldn't matter, and I can see their point but I just want to find out th reason why we keep all rims the same.



When we went to the Nurburgring in June I had a set of Work Meister 11 x 18" (all round) split rims, and had no more probs with tramlining than I do on standard 9 x 17" rims in the UK (Lots of rubbing on full lock though! Will see how I get on with my 9.5 x 18" when they turn up this week.



Cheers. :)
 
Tramlining is also caused by the tire tread pattern, but increased width also will induce the problem.



I find that most of the guys over there are fairly knowledgeable, but it seems that a lot of the Brits have too much of a dependence to use tuners word, rather than trying different things out for themselves. There is never any real detailed information about engine characteristics, other than what turbos someone has installed, with a myriad of other performance parts and was dyno tuned to achieve XXX amount of power. What I am getting at is, I wish there more true gearheads that owned GTRs.



Like I mentioned, I have looked at the whole driveline of the GTR, and there should be no problem with a wider tyre in the rear. If I was to run my car over there with a wider tyre in the rear most of the guys over there would point and laugh, because its not the norm.



Its not that we think that all the GTRs over there are "dogs", its just that we have a much greater knowledge base over here, that are willing to share their own information with each other. % wise, we turn more of our own wrenches, than what the British market does.



If you take offence to this post, I am sorry. It was not intended to be offensive, its more intend for the hope that you guys will look were you are at, and get a little more information out to the rest of the GTR populus, rather than depending on what a select few say, and preach it as gospel.
 
There are lots of debates regarding whether people desreve the credit for their high power cars etc if they've been shipped over from Japan, or built in the UK... It's been going on for ages.



There are a lot of people with a lot of money over here who rely on the tuners rather than do it themselves but hey, not alot we can do about that. The scene also tends to be very competitive between the tuners rather than in Japan where info and knowledge is shared which is a shame... That said, there are some very knowledgable people here.



Also it's quite common that unless you've got a big tuners name behind you for any work, full history and receipts for everything including your air freshener, people will wonder whether your car is a good'un or not when you want to sell it..... Basically everyone thinks theres something wrong until all proof has been shown but, it's like that over here in general. I did the majority of work on my Impreza STI by myself and it took ages to sell because people doubt your ability..... I'll be going to a tuner with this car even for oil changes because thats the way it is......



I've certainly not taken any offence to your posts, as I hope you haven't mine... It's nice to hear other peoples opinions... I'd like to know percynjpn 's reasons for thinking all our cars are in a poor state..... probably from someone who's never even sat in a Skyline :rolleyes: but hey, he's entitled to his opinion.......
 
BOSSCAT said:
Width of the rear tires, is just that a wider tire, the rolling circumference is what the sensors are looking at, that and the signal from the g-sensor.
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Exactly that, should have no problems if the rolling circumference remains the same, but it's less complicated to keep them all the same size (you can rotate them for a start), and on 265/35 18 D-01Js mine doesn't tramline badly.



Phil
 
There are lots of debates regarding whether people desreve the credit for their high power cars etc if they've been shipped over from Japan, or built in the UK... It's been going on for ages.
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I can see were that would be debated.



There are a lot of people with a lot of money over here who rely on the tuners rather than do it themselves but hey, not alot we can do about that. The scene also tends to be very competitive between the tuners rather than in Japan where info and knowledge is shared which is a shame... That said, there are some very knowledgable people here.
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Yes, there are some very knowledgeable people there. I have read your GTR forum for a while. Back before Cem took over. Its a shame that people over there think like that, about tuners. It hurts the GTR society as a whole.





Also it's quite common that unless you've got a big tuners name behind you for any work, full history and receipts for everything including your air freshener, people will wonder whether your car is a good'un or not when you want to sell it..... Basically everyone thinks theres something wrong until all proof has been shown but, it's like that over here in general. I did the majority of work on my Impreza STI by myself and it took ages to sell because people doubt your ability..... I'll be going to a tuner with this car even for oil changes because thats the way it is......
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Good on ya! Nice to see that you do your own work. That impresses me a lot more than the bloke with a big bank account that can afford to pay for a tuner to do all the work.





I've certainly not taken any offence to your posts, as I hope you haven't mine... It's nice to hear other peoples opinions... I'd like to know percynjpn 's reasons for thinking all our cars are in a poor state..... probably from someone who's never even sat in a Skyline but hey, he's entitled to his opinion.......
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Cool, none taken here either. I will tell you that my GTR was owned by a pilot, he spent a lot of cash for it. He lived on a very muddy road, but never seemed to wash the darn things chassis. Needless to say, I have spent the last 2 months tackling the rust issue, from the 5 years of neglect. Albeit he was much older than 27:) I find most of the GTR that I have ran across, in all sorts of different type of states. From near perfect, to get out the gun and put the car out of its misery. Mostly, they have been very well maintained. I know mine is:xyxthumbs
 
Alex Creasey said:
I'd like to know percynjpn 's reasons for thinking all our cars are in a poor state..... probably from someone who's never even sat in a Skyline :rolleyes: but hey, he's entitled to his opinion....... [/B]
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Hi Alex,



My comment was made in regard to the Skylines in JAPAN, not "all [your] cars", which I wouldn't be able to comment on. I've lived here for about 11 years, and as an active car enthusiast, former GT-R owner (i.e. someone who HAS sat in a Skyline) and "informal" Nissan Silvia racer at the local track (Tsukuba Circuit) - plus several sessions lapping my '97 GT-R there and at Motegi, I think I could offer a reasonable - though general- assessment of the condition of Skylines here (IN JAPAN).



I'm not sure how you made the leap that my post was a critique of "your" cars; I've only had experience with (again) ones over here. I wouldn't offer any opinion on (imported?) Skylines in the UK.



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Hi Percy,



I was only fishing to see what your reasoning was... It was a pretty sweeping statement with no real backup, what do you think a Skyline owner and enthusiast to think??? Thankyou for proving me wrong though :).... Friends in Japan that are still owners do still seem to have a differing opinion though.



The reason I made the 'leap' was because all of our Skylines are imported from Japan, even the 80 or so 'official' imports of each model that came to the UK.... So apart from cars imported as new, all our cars have lived some sort of life over there. Mine only came to the UK about 2 years ago.....



Without a doubt we get some cars that are below the condition you would expect but, the market is still (relatively speaking), very small over here so any 'bad one's' get weeded out very quickly!



Cheers.
 
triplethreat said:
Great Skyline. Don't see many in the US Haven't seen one since i was stationed in Japan. Was it bought here or brought over.
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Brought over. Disassembled then reassembled...
 
Alex Creasey said:
Without a doubt we get some cars that are below the condition you would expect but, the market is still (relatively speaking), very small over here so any 'bad one's' get weeded out very quickly!



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Thanks for your reply, Alex; I'm sorry to have sounded overly negative. I think your above quoted comment must be right on the money - I expect that those importing a Skyline (especially considering the cost involved) would be extremely picky about its condition overall. :cool:
 
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