Next least abrasive level after OP with white pad?

Hello Everyone,



I'm just about to do my first polishing. and I need some suggestion first, what is the least abrasive combination after Optimum polish with LC white pad? is it OP with orange pad or OC with white pad?



Thanks.
 
It's neither. Both of those combos are MORE abrasive than the OP/White Pad.



If you're still not happy with your finish after OP/White Pad, then you should either try a finishing polish or a glaze. Use a white pad with a finishing polish like PoorBoy's SSR1, Menzerna finishing polish, or Pinnacle XMT 1. Or use a gray finishing pad with a sealer/glaze. Mother's sealer/glaze works pretty well and is availabel just about everywhere.



I'm going to try some XMT 1 followed by XMT Carnauba finishing glaze this weekend. I'll let you know how it goes.
 
I think what he is asking by "next least" is what would be the next step up in aggressiveness because the OP and white pad wasn't enough. I would guess OP with the orange pad, but the more experience can give a better idea.
 
oops... sorry, my mistake..



What Grimm said is what I'm trying to ask. I try to follow the creed here to use the least abrasive level before stepping up.



Thank you all and looking forward for your result, Less.
 
Optimum polish with a white pad is about as gentle as it gets if your using Optimum products. You could try Poli-Seal, but that's more of an all-in-one cleaner/filler/sealer rather than a defect-removing polish.



I would say if you're going for defect-removal, you're pretty safe with OP and the White pad. If it doesn't work you can step up to an orange pad. I've gone against some of the conventional advice on this board and used it with a yellow pad. It worked to remove the defects, but its more work because then you have to go over it again with a white or orange pad to remove all of the micro-marring induced by the yellow pad. I probably wouldn't try it again but it might work for you if you have really bad swirling and spider-webbing.



If you really want something less abrasive, then go with either a final polish, like I recommended previously or some kind of All-in-one product that will fill small defects, clean the paint, and then seal it for protection. Optimum Poli-Seal, Klass AIO/SG combo, or XMT 360 would work. You could also try any number of the pre-wax cleaners out there.
 
I'm actually not sure about that. I was speaking in generalities when I recommended an all-in-one product. Poli-seal came to mind, but I have no idea what is in it.



The listing on Autogeek.net says that "This revolutionary product will eliminate (not hide) minor paint imperfections and blemishes" so I would suspect that it does not contain fillers
 
He didn't phrase it well - but what brianto apparently is looking for is the next most aggressive polishing option.



He started out with a mild approach (as he should) and now wants to now what the next few steps up the aggressiveness chain would be in terms of combinations of Optimum Polishes/Compounds and pads.
 
Milestones said:
He didn't phrase it well - but what brianto apparently is looking for is the next most aggressive polishing option.



He started out with a mild approach (as he should) and now wants to now what the next few steps up the aggressiveness chain would be in terms of combinations of Optimum Polishes/Compounds and pads.



Alright then, if we are talking strictly about Optimum products, the aggressiveness progression works like this



Optimum Hyper-Compound (Yellow Pad)

Optimum Compound (Yellow Pad)

Optimum Compound (Orange Pad)

Optimum Polish (Orange Pad)

Optimum Polish (White Pad)

Optimum Poli-Seal (White Pad)

Optimum Poli-Seal (Gray Pad)



I noticed on Autogeek that they now have a Green pad that is somewhere in between the white and gray. You could try Poli-Seal with one of those too if you want
 
Less said:
Alright then, if we are talking strictly about Optimum products, the aggressiveness progression works like this



Optimum Hyper-Compound (Yellow Pad)

Optimum Compound (Yellow Pad)

Optimum Compound (Orange Pad)

Optimum Polish (Orange Pad)

Optimum Polish (White Pad)

Optimum Poli-Seal (White Pad)

Optimum Poli-Seal (Gray Pad)



I noticed on Autogeek that they now have a Green pad that is somewhere in between the white and gray. You could try Poli-Seal with one of those too if you want



Yes. This is information that I'm looking for. Thank you very much. :2thumbs:



currently, I only have Optimum Polish and Optimum Compound for my correction job, and Meguiars for glaze and wax. But I do have variation of LC pads, including a green pad and a yellow one :)



Thanks again and thanks Milestones for re-phrasing my question.
 
Less said:
Alright then, if we are talking strictly about Optimum products, the aggressiveness progression works like this



Optimum Hyper-Compound (Yellow Pad)

Optimum Compound (Yellow Pad)

Optimum Compound (Orange Pad)

Optimum Polish (Orange Pad)

Optimum Polish (White Pad)

Optimum Poli-Seal (White Pad)

Optimum Poli-Seal (Gray Pad)



I noticed on Autogeek that they now have a Green pad that is somewhere in between the white and gray. You could try Poli-Seal with one of those too if you want



What about working with the Edge2000 pads? Thanks.
 
I just got Edge pads to go with my new Makita and have to say I love them (Esp. the wool pads-unbelievable results). Keep in mind that, from green to black, the pads I use are wool. All the other pads are foam.



Anywho, From most to least aggressive.



Hyper Compound with black pad (Pretty much never have to use)

Hyper Compound with yellow pad

Compound with yellow pad

Compound with green pad

Polish with yellow pad (My go to on hard clear cars-takes alot of the deep stuff out)

Polish with green pad

Polish with orange pad (Softer than LC orange)

Polish with blue pad (Equivalent to LC white)

Polish or Poli-Seal with white pad (Softer than LC white)



What I usually do on my rotary is use green or yellow wool with OP, around 1600rpm, and then follow up with OP on blue, around 1500rpm. Since i got it I have a feeling i'm gunna be using alot less OC and alot more OP because the rotary is alot more aggresive, so there's really no need for heavier compounds. People said it would be hard to get used to, but right on the first try it was giving me great results.

Edge and Makita highly regarded!
 
Yea AL, Im getting my rotary next week probably and Im having a hard time getting used to only having to use milder polishes from here on out for most of the work. I guess its been working out for you!



Jim
 
To clarify i have 6", not 8", foam pads as they are safer and cause less of a chance of burning the paint. It is kinda weird when first using it but just use common sense and you'll be fine.



~Albert
 
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