newbie's plan of attack for neglected black car

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imported_Elemental

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Alright, now that my wife is driving the brand new car and it is looking good and protected, I must turn my attention to my neglected Nissan Sentra. The past week or so, I've been immersing myself in the archives and I've learned a ton. That being said I need to buy some products and develop a plan to get this Nissan done this weekend. So, help me out!



Thankfully, the interior looks great. The Nissan has some heavy oxidation, swirls, water etching and the trim needs to be restored. (See a week ago I didn't know what any of that meant)

Here's the plan:



Wash

Clay - I'll probably go through 2 bars!

Wash

Menzerma IP

FP

Trim Restorer? Any recommendations?

Pre-Cleaner for Liquid Glass (I have some already)

Liquid Glass

Megs #26



Critiques please! Also note that I will be doing this by hand and I have all weekend, but my budget for this job is probably about a $100 bucks. I'm not sold on any of these products, they're just my initial ideas!



TIA-

wifegetstodrivethenewcarbutimakethemoney - i should have used that as my screen name!
 
Elemental- I'm not sure the Menzerna twins are the best for hand application. Maybe stuff from 3M or Poorboys instead. I guess I wouldn't use 1Z since you're gonna be following with the LG, but if it's pre-cleaner would strip the 1Z's waxes, then that's another good option. Working by hand will be a big job no matter what you use.



You'll be fine with the LG and a topper, can't help with the trim restorer.
 
Accumulator said:
Elemental- I'm not sure the Menzerna twins are the best for hand application. Maybe stuff from 3M or Poorboys instead. I guess I wouldn't use 1Z since you're gonna be following with the LG, but if it's pre-cleaner would strip the 1Z's waxes, then that's another good option. Working by hand will be a big job no matter what you use.



You'll be fine with the LG and a topper, can't help with the trim restorer.
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I used the SSR series and I used machine, I tried hand once for it and damn it was a chore to do. After doing 1 quarter of the hood I said back to machine. I dunno how the other members used to do it though.
 
i used menzerna ip and fp with a $30 harbor freight buffer and it did a great job on my wife's '95 black altima that hadn't probably seen wax in years.



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Do most of you guys use hand and PC when detailing an exterior? For instance the hard to get areas that are too big for a PC. Just use an applicator pad or terry cloth for those places?
 
Slick said:
Do most of you guys use hand and PC when detailing an exterior? For instance the hard to get areas that are too big for a PC. Just use an applicator pad or terry cloth for those places?
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Slick "the doctor of style" (anyone who watched WWF in the 80's knows what I'm talking about). Anyway--



I do use a combo of both, for example on my Denali, on the lower part of the door, there's a recessed styling "crevice" that goes the width of both doors horizontally. I'll just get a Viking foam applicator with built in handle (love these things) and put the polish. I don't get overly concerned with application in those areas, so as long as something's on there, I'm happy. Same goes for the roof of my vehicle. Hope this helps...
 
Apply either "Back To Black" or "Black Again" to the trim... FIRST.



My PC applies product to almost everything, I seldom have to resort to an applicator pad.



Altho Liquid Glass is probably a fine product (I've never used it), there are several more contemporary options. I'm sure you've read about them...



Jim
 
Before you begin touching the paint but after a wash. Keep in mind that if the trim is badly faded, Back in Black may not make you smile. Back in Black is a great cleaner, but it has no dyes in it (good for newer trim). Forever Black contains dyes so it works well on older, whitened (word?) trim but it is much harder to apply evenly. It's a trade-off. I have both if you would like to sample and you don't live too far away. PM me.



Elemental said:
first as in before the wash or before the sealant step?
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this is what i decided to use...

Wash with blue coral wash cause i have it lying around...dont dry

The Perfect Shine clay intro package

wash again with blue coral, dry.

IZ Ultra Paint Polish

1Z Paint Polish

(do I need to use a precleaner for a sealant here?)

Liquid Glass- as I have some lying around...but probably going to the Klasse twins when I run out. x 2

Megs 26 paste



hopefully the products will get here in time for the weekend, i'm ready to go...
 
You might want to have some 1ZMP around just in case you have hazing from the more agressive polishes.



For trim, thinksnow's suggestion of Back in Black is good for cleaning. I do what he does to clean the trim after a wash.



Then for a final dressing, I've use Z-16 in the past and am currently using PB's Trim Restorer, both with excellent results. You could also use PB's BnB but I find it too glossy for trim work.
 
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