wannafbody
wannafbody
Any issues with streaking with Zaino due to humidity should disappear after a day or so. I really like the ZAIO/Z8 combo. If you are having issue with durability then it might be a paint issue or environmental issue.
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This is the combo I am going to try I am going to use a Pc with a black pad, any pointers you can give me?wannafbody said:Any issues with streaking with Zaino due to humidity should disappear after a day or so. I really like the ZAIO/Z8 combo. If you are having issue with durability then it might be a paint issue or environmental issue.
If a manufacturer claims that their polish/wax will bead water initially and then magically change to sheeting... I say impossible!!!! Let them prove that the polish/wax film protection initially applied is still there...
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Bence said:Hard waxes are very easy to work with. I really don't know what is so difficult. It's not personal towards you Bis, I'm just generalizing.
For me, common sense rules. When I see that people somehow want to take/scrape a 3D physical bit of a hard paste wax out a container I always wonder... I saw people scoop out wax of the tin with a little spoon, trying to spread the clump on the towel/applicator, and they clumsily tried to créme the surface of the vehicle, giving it "complete coverage". Hey, it's waxing, not applying a sort of cucumber facial mask!
Bis, take your applicator or towel, lightly swirl it around on the surface of the wax. That's it. You'll see a fine layer of liquified wax on the surface of the media. That's usually enough for a panel, even for newbs. To see how much wax you got on the app, try to scrape it back with the back of a knife. Be mindful that the remaining wax in the app is still enough for a smaller panel! Remember what Accumulator said: feel the app gliding on the surface = depositing wax onto it. When an applicator dries, it will grab, and can curl up in no tim under your fingers. It's not necessary to see a pronounced trace on the surface, just a very faint, thin whisper. With the Collinite, wait couple of minutes, but certainly not 30, and remove. Certain waxes can dry very hard after setting, making them difficult to remove. Remember, any abrasion, yes, including wax removal with a towel can damage paint finishes, so a light, easy removal is key. As Collinite states on the tin: remove before the wax fully dries. Setting can be longer in high humidity, but don't let the wax dry out on the surface.
How's that with the apps? You didn't have a spare app? Tossed them?
Brad B. said:Don't overthink this. Easier said than done, I've been there.
Zaino, like every manufacturer/distributor on the planet, "markets" multiple products to customers. There is always product overlap. They want to appeal to all customers desires/needs and perceptions. It's not always black and white for them to tell you which product is best for you. Ideally, they would like to sell them all to you. That's true for every retailer. No harm there.
As a long time user of Zaino products let me try to explain.
Z5 has fillers, it can hide a very small amount of imperfections in the paint. These fillers though, do reduce the ability of Z5 to reach the gloss level of Z2. It' can't be optically clear or it wouldn't hide the defects. That's the difference between Z5 and Z2. To be honest, the difference is very, very slight and most can't tell at all.
You do not have to use these products together. Z5 is only recommended for dark cars because it helps hide the imprefections that are more easily seen on dark paint. If you have a dark colored paint with no defects then just use Z2. The right answer here, IMO, is to prep your paint properly and remove all imperfections first, then there is no need for Z5. I don't use it. And as mentioned, the hiding capabilities (like most other brands) is limited.
Z2 is clear. It has no fillers. It has the highest gloss of any Zaino product.
Now you mention that after a few days/weeks you lose beading from AIO? I think you found your own problem there. PLEASE, you owe it to yourself to use the proper car wash. Z7 car wash was designed to be used with Zaino products. It has the right Ph levels, cleaning strength and formula to really augment the shine and slickness of the surface. Using Z7 will actually boost your results and maintain the gloss and protection over time. If you are not using Z2 you are missing a big step. I've experimented with this a lot. It makes a difference.
I see from a recent post that now you are layering waxes on top of the Zaino. The ONLY reason to do this is for some perceived difference in 'look'. You do know that you are now 'mucking up' the recipe here, so to speak. (No worries, I have experimented in the past as well. So it's ok to get it out of your system.) Now whatever you add on top is affecting the Zaino. The top layer, now becomes the one you have to maintain and is the one you must criticize for gloss, durability, beading, etc. And the car wash you use must compliment the top wax.
What is your ultimate goal?
Accumulator said:Don't put on another layer of 476S yet, most likely it'd just cause pseudo-holograms from solvent action, and oh brother you don't want to deal with those :grinno:
Bis said:What are those????!!! :nervous:
Bis said:My goals:
• Protection for the cheap paint job on my car which will last | (an effect of this protection is beading ability?)
Bence said:And, 476's layer is more substantial than Z-CS, and it will protect WAY better.
SuperBee364 said:Accumulator, that's for sure the ideal suggestion, but I think the OP is excited to use his new Zaino products...
SuperBee364 said:Bis, how water acts on top of a surface that has an LSP on it is a good indication that the LSP is physically *there*, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's providing any sort of substantial environmental protection. Let's see if I can attempt to explain this a bit. Let's say you go out and put a layer of Saran Wrap on your car. Sure, you can see that it's there, but how well is it actually *protecting* the paint? Not very well at all. All LSP's are *not* created equal in this regard; just because they are *there* doesn't mean that they're doing much other than looking nice. Some LSP's provide greater protection (and ease of cleaning) than others. Some look very nice, last a long time, but don't do much in regards to protecting your paint from the elements. At the risk of starting a flame fest (every time someone questions Zaino as being anything other than the epitome of THE BEST lsp out there, it's bound to start a war, but anyway....), Zaino LOOKS very good. And it keeps it's look a long, long time. HOWEVER, it's not one of the best at actually providing real environmental protection. I love Zaino on garage queen show cars. It looks great. But on a daily driver that sees a lot of road use, stays in the driveway, gets rained on, bird poop, etc., it would be my very last choice of lsp's. The idea of putting Zaino on top of Collinite is a very good one. You're getting the best of both worlds; Collinite provides outstanding environmental protection, and the Zaino looks awesome. Now let's see how long it takes before a Zainoite chimes in with how well Zaino protects his car from nuclear fall out.Where's that "stir the pot" emoticon when I need it?
You can take that statement to the bank.... well, as long as it's not B of A.
Bis said:Indeed SuperBee. That makes a lot of sense. Zaino advertises its products as having UV-40 protection, whatever. I've studied their website and spoken to their creator (as I posted previously) and the feeling I get from all of it now after using the products is not very good.