New to Zaino, do i need to use z5 and z2?

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dmarcus48

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Ok figured I'd give the zaino line a shot. Have been using the Klasse twins for a couple of years with p21s as a topper.



I put on a coat of Z5 with a couple of drops of zfx, followed by two coats of z2/zfx. Now I'm reading some posts, did I need to do that? Are z5 and z2 the same, only difference being z5 has some filling capability?



Should I just layer z2 on, or can I use a carnuba like p21s over the top?



BTW we're talking about use on a 3 month old acura tl, albaster silver. Car has been clayed, waxed probably 6 or 7 times with Klasse already. Shines about as good as a silver car can.



Going in for some ankle/foot reconstruction and will be off my feet till next spring so I want to get the car protected for the winter, it stays in my garage. Probably let my daughter take it to work a couple of times.



TIA



Dave
 
Dave,



If you’re going after ease of use, a deep/wet look, excellent slickness and durability I would go with Z5Pro x 3. This will carry you through the winter with no problem (even if you do use it as a daily driver). When you feel better in the Spring, you can top Z5Pro with Z2Pro for an even better look!



Since this is your fist Zaino application I would recommend this process:



-Wash, Clay, and AIO to prep your paint.

-Z6 QD Wipe down

-Z5Pro zfx'd x 2 or 3. I would go at least 2 coats to ensure that you’ve covered 100% of the surface. Apply it to your paint, glass, lights, wheels. 1 oz should give you 3 thin coats. Use 2-3-drops of zfx per oz.

-Z6 QD wipe down between coats.

-Let each coat cure for 15-20 minutes. Wipe a spot with your finger to see if it is dry (I like to wipe the glass vs. the paint).

-I would not recommend topping Zaino with a carnauba because you will lose many of the benefits of Zaino (slickness, repels contaminates that like to bond/stick to your paint, your car will maintain a fairly clean looking appearance after driving through rain, etc....)



Here’s a shot of my STS with Z2Pro on top of Z5Pro x 3.



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Good luck! I think you’ll be very pleased with Zaino sitting on your paint. I love it on my silver car.
 
it's pretty standard to use z5 then top w/ z2. z5 has minor concealing properties, but doesn't do THAT much for swirls, etc. z5 has a slightly deeper, less shiny appearance than z2...so topping w/ both gives you the benefit of both depth and shine.



my 05 TL has z5/z2 on it...and i've been maintaining by washing with z7 and then QD'ing w/ Duragloss AquaWax. AW looks great, and since it's also a polymer based protectant it doesn't inhibit anything regarding Zaino bonding, etc. if you use wax on top of Zaino you will need to strip all the wax off again prior to reapplying more Z in the future.



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The traditional Zaino application is Z5, however many coats needed to deal with swirls or light scratches, topped off with one or more coats of Z2 just like you described. There is certainly nothing wrong with this approach, and the two are compatibile with each other, and can be layered.



However, on a new surface w/o swirls, you could go straight to Z2 without using Z5. Likewise, many people with metallic paints seem to prefer just Z5 as it has a somewhat less shine than Z2 and shows the metallic 'character' of the paint to greater effect.



It is okay to use a 'regular' polish, like P21S, etc before using either Z5 or Z2 to enhance the paint surface and resulting shine. I don't think there's any advantage though to putting a carnuba wax over the Z2 -- layering Z2 and finishing with either Z6 or Z8 will give a terrific, long-lasting gloss.
 
Thanks guys, that clears it up a little better. Did notice that the zaino seems to be much more forgiving to use. If you put it on to heavy it's much easy to take off than klasse. I'll build up a couple more coats of Z2 since it is a new car. If I don't use the zfx, how long should I wait for it to dry? Same technique?



Dave
 
Hey GM I assume thats Zaino on your Escalade I see there with your STS.



both look really good!!!



mongo
 
mongo said:
Hey GM I assume thats Zaino on your Escalade I see there with your STS.



both look really good!!!



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Thanks.



That's my wife's Z71, and it's protected with Zaino too. :2thumbs:
 
dpritchett said:
It is okay to use a 'regular' polish, like P21S, etc before using either Z5 or Z2 to enhance the paint surface and resulting shine. I don't think there's any advantage though to putting a carnuba wax over the Z2 -- layering Z2 and finishing with either Z6 or Z8 will give a terrific, long-lasting gloss.
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How is the Z2 going to stick to p21s? The Zaino instructions specifically say to dawn wash first to remove any old wax. I'm not so sure about this theory.
 
newtlicious said:
How is the Z2 going to stick to p21s? The Zaino instructions specifically say to dawn wash first to remove any old wax. I'm not so sure about this theory.
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I would recommend washing & claying. Zaino does not bond well to carnuba because of the silicones/oils. Wax (i.e silicone) will also attract dust, etc... Mixing the 2 is really defeating the purpose of Zaino. IMO, Z5Pro looks as good (gloss/depth) as most any other carnuba on the market.



Prep is key with Zaino (and most any other sealer). I would apply Z2Pro or Z5pro x 2 (zfx'd) to ensure 100% surface coverage and protection.



Does this help?



Post again if you plan to polish out any defects PRIOR to applying Z2Pro or Z5Pro.



I was intimidated by the Z this, Z that... but it's a very easy and effective process. The hardest part for me was deciphering Z2, Z3, Z5, Z6, Z7, etc... soooo many z's (LOL).
 
It really is a easy process use Z-1 instead of ZFX just put Z-1 Polish Lok on thinly it only has to touch the surface to do its job ; once the polish is on there spreading the polish lok is much easier.

Thin is in with the Zaino system as is with most polymers etc...



regards mongo
 
whats the best way to apply Zaino very thin? Do you use a damp cloth or MF towel, or is it dry? and do you put the Zaino directly on the paint or on the cloth? thanks
 
After prepping the finish, do a quik Z6 QD first. Spritz your applicator pad with some Z6. Place a "pea-sized" amount of Z5/Z2 on the applicator pad. Apply to surface and spread the small amount over the intended area. Work it in until complete coverage is established and a thin transparent film can be seen. Spritz applicator again and apply to next area.
 
blkZ28Conv said:
After prepping the finish, do a quik Z6 QD first. Spritz your applicator pad with some Z6. Place a "pea-sized" amount of Z5/Z2 on the applicator pad. Apply to surface and spread the small amount over the intended area. Work it in until complete coverage is established and a thin transparent film can be seen. Spritz applicator again and apply to next area.
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So your recommendation was 1 section at a time. Is there anything wrong with spraying the entire car with Z6, then putting the next coat on?
 
wannafbody said:
you can do a Z6 wipedown of the whole car. He was suggesting using Z6 to prime your pad to make applying Z2 easier.
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Oh very interesting. I think I asked on another thread using water on the pad then put Z2 on it.



So, you spray the pad with Z6, ful spray or small spray? then put on Z2/ Z5 etc...?
 
gbogh3 said:
Oh very interesting. I think I asked on another thread using water on the pad then put Z2 on it.



So, you spray the pad with Z6, ful spray or small spray? then put on Z2/ Z5 etc...?
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small spray.. you want to lightly mist it. not make it wet.
 
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