New to detailing

IDK exactly what marring look likes. And by rotating the towels, I use one for upper pannels and I use another for lower and rims. After 2 washes I move my upper panel towel to lower panel and throw away the lower panel towel.



***I got the car out into direct sunlight today and it was sorta dusty, I pulled the tape off and got everything out of the cracks and looked at it in direct sunlight. Seems like some of the paint is kind of foggy. With the garage light, the paint looks IMMACULATE, but in the sun, kinda foggy in areas.



I'm planning to rins the car off tomorrow (to get the dust off) let it air dry in the garage then buff it hardcore. Seems like I need to rub it a lot to get the foggyness to go away...I hope I didn't mess something up..
 
Ok, this morning I took it out in the sun and rinsed it off good (water beaded up nicely and flowed right off the car). Still foggy in the sun so I buffed it really good and rubbed hard, but it still seems a bit foggy in areas I believe. When I rub it pretty hard it seems to go away mostly but kind of comes back.



It kind of makes me think there was polish still on the car when I waxed maybe?
 
bigdawgfoxx said:
IDK exactly what marring look likes...



Sorry..by "marring" I mean swirls/scratches/etc.



..***I got the car out into direct sunlight today and it was sorta dusty, I pulled the tape off and got everything out of the cracks and looked at it in direct sunlight. Seems like some of the paint is kind of foggy. With the garage light, the paint looks IMMACULATE, but in the sun, kinda foggy in areas...When I rub it pretty hard it seems to go away mostly but kind of comes back.



It kind of makes me think there was polish still on the car when I waxed maybe?



That's possible. Try gently repolishing one of the foggy areas and be careful to really buff off all the polish residue. Pull it into the sun and see if that fixed the problem.



Then, assuming it *did*, redo the wax and see how it goes.



Try to figure out what you might've done differently in the foggy/not areas.
 
I can't think of what I've done different. And to be honest I'm out of time now. I start a grueling semester at Texas A&M University today.



I guess if I get the chance, I will repolish a door that looks a little foggy and buff it a ton and then re wax it. Have you ever heard of this foggyness happening before?
 
Looked at the car in direct sunlight again today and it looks pretty foggy. In medium light it looks amazing and really glossy, but foggy in direct light. Not cool. A&M Engineering doesn't really allow time to buff your car either. I'm ****ed.
 
bigdawgfoxx- Ah [shoot], sorry to hear that. I really dunno what when wrong, but I sorta suspect it's something related to the #80...just guessing though.



At least it'll be protected, not that *that* is probably much consolation to you.



Hope the semester goes well, that's well worth prioritizing ;)



Wonder if there's any member from here who could help you out :think:
 
Yeah, I believe I just didn't buff off all of the polish. And now the wax is on the top so I cant get it off. When I rub the affected area pretty hard it seems to clear up a little but then its back to normal soon. I guess I'm just gonna have to polish it off or wait untill I wash it enough to remove most of the wax lol. Then I will just do a light light polish and buff it REALLY good, then apply wax.
 
bigdawgfoxx- I'm actually *hoping* that you're applying yourself so much to your studies that you don't mess with this too much ;)



But... OK, I've been giving this some thought. I kinda suspect that the #80 wasn't aggressive enough. The only times I've had that kind of cloudiness were when I tried stuff (I *think* including #80, this was a long time ago so it's hard to remember) that just wasn't up to the job at hand.



Somebody here was describing a detail they just did thusly: "...but there were still some foggy looking areas so I got out a more aggressive combo" (well, words to that effect).



So I dunno if redoing the #80 would be the best course of action and I don't want you to waste a minute doing something futile.



I think the best idea would be to use something more aggressive for a pass or two and then follow up with the #80. I'd lean towards one of the newer Meguiar's OTC products like their Swirl-X or maybe even the Ultimate Compound. I'd try a small area that's currently messed up.



IF you try the Ultimate Compound you'll need to use something milder afterwards (Swirl-X or #80). IF you use the Swirl-X it might finish out ready-to-wax on its own.



IMO you need to cut deeper and get through the fogginess. But I'll admit I'm just guessing (educated guesses though ;) ) as it's hard to diagnose this stuff online.



I *really* think you oughta see if there's some Autopian in your area; I bet somebody good could sort this out in no time if he/she's there in person.



This is frustrating as all get out for me as I'd hoped to give you foolproof advice but instead have left you with a new dilemma :o
 
I dont know why the #80 not being aggressive enough would leave my paint foggy though...I mean if I removed all of it before waxing at least. I washed the car the other day and you can just see streaking and foggyness but it moves around if you rub it. Which if the polish was left below the wax, this shouldnt happen.



But I think there was just quiet a bit of polish left on the car (I dont know how the hell this happened..I buffed it really good with several towels...) and then when I waxed it the wax and polish kind of blended together on the final layer creating the foggyness.



I feel once I wash it enough to remove the wax, most of the foggyness should go away, dont you? In which case I could just redo the #80 to really clear it up, take it out in the sun and make sure its ALL off, then wax it again. Or maybe even just wax it again..
 
bigdawgfoxx said:
I dont know why the #80 not being aggressive enough would leave my paint foggy though...I mean if I removed all of it before waxing at least. I washed the car the other day and you can just see streaking and foggyness but it moves around if you rub it. Which if the polish was left below the wax, this shouldnt happen...



Ah, that's helpful info! If the [problem] moves around then it's not what I was worried about previously. Yeah, it sounds like something going on between the #80 and the 845.




But I think there was just quiet a bit of polish left on the car (I dont know how the hell this happened..I buffed it really good with several towels...) and then when I waxed it the wax and polish kind of blended together on the final layer creating the foggyness.



That could be :think: I wonder if there was just some weird (previously unexperienced by me) compatibility issue between the #80 and the wax.



The #80 does leave some stuff behind, even after you thoroughly buff it off.




I feel once I wash it enough to remove the wax, most of the foggyness should go away, dont you? In which case I could just redo the #80 to really clear it up, take it out in the sun and make sure its ALL off, then wax it again. Or maybe even just wax it again..[/



Current thought: yeah, redo the #80 and be careful to a) work it a long time, b) buff off all the residue (try fogging the surface with your breath before doing a final wipe). THEN, instead of the Collinite, get some Meguiar's NXT v2.0. liquid. That works *great* after #80 IME. You could always top the NXT with Collinite later, but this might be a way of narrowing the possible issues down by introducing a new variable...might sound goofy but I think it's worth the cost of a bottle of NXT.



If the problem still occurs with the #80/NXT combo I think we can better diagnose it, at least compared to whatever's going on now.



I still feel really bummed out about your problem and I hope it's not distracting you from your studies.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty bummed too. My car went from people saying "man that paint looks so good" to "whys it foggy and stuff in areas?"...And I spent 3 weeks worth of work to acquire these results lol



I will have time in the summer to do it again. So I will do #80 and then probably that NXT I guess.



You think maybe I should wash it after I polish it to help remove all the polish then wax maybe...
 
bigdawgfoxx said:
Yeah, I'm pretty bummed too. My car went from people saying "man that paint looks so good" to "whys it foggy and stuff in areas?"...And I spent 3 weeks worth of work to acquire these results lol



I will have time in the summer to do it again. So I will do #80 and then probably that NXT I guess.



You think maybe I should wash it after I polish it to help remove all the polish then wax maybe...





I wouldn't wash it as I used NXT *right* after the #80 with good results.



One new idea: while I haven't tried the new M205 polish, people (whose opinions I respect) say it wipes off *very* easily, nice and clean. Maybe that'd be worth trying instead of the #80.
 
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