New P16S Carnauba!

JDookie said:
I would think it would just become a bigger jar of #26. Isn't #26 basically just an updated of #16 but with cleaners added to it?
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No, 26 is different, and no cleaners. I think 16 is pure carnauba, while 26 has silicones and polymers in it.
 
RCBuddha said:
Looks good....



Now i'm thinking of mixing Natty's with my S100.....
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Just do me a favor and use real low heat! It starts melting ASAP with the burner set as low as it can go. I was able to dip my finger in it and it was barely hot. I should have turned the burners down at that point. It took only 10 min to get it all completely melted then about 15 min in the fridge to get it solid again.
 
eShine said:
Just do me a favor and use real low heat! It starts melting ASAP with the burner set as low as it can go. I was able to dip my finger in it and it was barely hot. I should have turned the burners down at that point. It took only 10 min to get it all completely melted then about 15 min in the fridge to get it solid again.
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Will do.... Did you notice any changes as to how it applied/removed as compared to them individually?
 
RCBuddha said:
Will do.... Did you notice any changes as to how it applied/removed as compared to them individually?
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Yes! P21S was real easy to apply, #16 can be a bear. Together is not as bad as #16 but not as good as P21S. It met right in the middle.
 
I wonder how different this would be to mixing in some pure carnauba and/or beeswax to make your own down-home Zymol. Call it Zoomol.



I think you can buy half pound blocks of beeswax for $11-12 and nearly pure carnauba for under $20. Or is the carnauba in these much better than what woodworkers can buy?
 
JDookie said:
Wow, 115 degrees F. Down here in New Orleans, we get summer temps. in the high 90's on a regular basis. Surface temps. during that time must be well over 115 degrees, which confirms the idea that waxes aren't a good choice in the summer months while exposed to extreme heat.



Sealants = Summer

Sealants + Carnauba = Winter
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But don't these waxes have a bunch of stuff added to them that make them softer than pure carnauba? There is a good chance that they also decrease the melting temp significantly. When you put the wax on the car you can see it haze as the solvents, etc evaporate. I'd bet that the melting point of the wax that actually ends up on your car is a lot higher than 115 degrees. Pure carnauba melts at around 180F according to this site:



http://www.ndt.net/article/wcndt00/papers/idn555/idn555.htm



BTW, cool experiment!!



EDIT: I re-read your post and you didn't say that the waxes will melt on your car or anything. So I agree with you that waxes probably aren't as good as sealants in the hot summer. Because they don't melt at 115 F doesn't mean they won't have softened to the point where they will smear, etc. Just wanted to make sure nobody thinks their wax will melt and drip off their car!
 
Man, hilarious :rofl



I have some time...I should give this a shot :)





In for daytime, after a good night of sleep pics :lol
 
Just mixed up my own batch, as close to 50/50 as possible. It is cooling in the fridge right now. I'll play around with it on my car, see how durable it is in this hybrid form.
 
Scottwax said:
Just mixed up my own batch, as close to 50/50 as possible. It is cooling in the fridge right now. I'll play around with it on my car, see how durable it is in this hybrid form.
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:eek:
 
Ben Z. said:
But don't these waxes have a bunch of stuff added to them that make them softer than pure carnauba? There is a good chance that they also decrease the melting temp significantly. When you put the wax on the car you can see it haze as the solvents, etc evaporate. I'd bet that the melting point of the wax that actually ends up on your car is a lot higher than 115 degrees. Pure carnauba melts at around 180F according to this site:



http://www.ndt.net/article/wcndt00/papers/idn555/idn555.htm



BTW, cool experiment!!



EDIT: I re-read your post and you didn't say that the waxes will melt on your car or anything. So I agree with you that waxes probably aren't as good as sealants in the hot summer. Because they don't melt at 115 F doesn't mean they won't have softened to the point where they will smear, etc. Just wanted to make sure nobody thinks their wax will melt and drip off their car!
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Oh no, I wasn't saying that it would literally *drip* off of a car but was referring to when people have said in the past that higher temps have decreased the durability of waxes, and those extreme heats actually give a car a *blurred* look to it from the wax softening. One thing I've always noticed down here is that waxes never last long at all.
 
LMAO, this has to be one of the best threads I've ever seen on Autopia. I really like Natty's topped with #16 on my car...



I think my parents would definitely check me into a mental hospital if they saw me melting waxes on the stove.:eek:
 
Now what would happen if you combined a liquid with a paste? Would it turn out as a liquid or a paste in the end? I'd like to have a UPP paste! Maybe UPP + Paste Glaz in one step!
 
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Testing will begin as soon as it stops raining!!!!
 
Wow. I wonder how it'll all turn out. Very gutsy to say the least but this should be a very interesting thread.
 
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