New P16S Carnauba!

Wonder how well #16 would mix with a liquid synthetic like #21. Someone had mentioned nuba with sealant didn't do too well. Anyone think it'd harden up with a 50/50 mix? If not, what about 26 and 16? It was also mentioned earlier in the thread. Anyone do 26 and 16?
 
Wow, doesn't melting them do anything to the quality of the formula. It seems to me if you can just melt them and reuse them like that I wonder how well they work on your car when it gets hot?
 
hharvey13 said:
Wow, doesn't melting them do anything to the quality of the formula. It seems to me if you can just melt them and reuse them like that I wonder how well they work on your car when it gets hot?
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Considering they were heated and poured in liquid form when originally made, I doubt it hurts it.
 
Wow, talk about bring a thread back to life!! LOL.



After this thread, people were melting and combining all kinds of stuff together. It was great. :woohoo:
 
atticdog said:
we did about a full tin of each and melted them together so we both had a full tin of the hybrid wax
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how long did you let them cool in the freezer after you poured them each into the tins?



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I've mixed Zaino Z3 with Klasse SG. Worked quite well, actually. Really easy on and off, results much like Zaino by itself. I can't see any real benefit to it, though. You have me thinking, though... What about SG and Z8 mixed?
 
Carnauba's natural melting point is 80C.



I'm curious to what happend to some of the additive oils/solvents? They have a much lower flash point, you more than likely created a less quality wax mixing the two.
 
I did original Natty's & #16 when this thread first started. Pretty nice stuff and seems to have the best of both waxes, although it's not my goto wax.
 
Hi!



I had about a 1/8th, probably a bit more of Nattys Original paste wax, i dumped in a sample size container of FK1 Pink Wax.



Looks pinky, smells fruity, could be mistaken for Nattys red. Beads well, its only been 2 weeks looks very wet. I really want to to see if it will last 3 months!



Geoff
 
Ok from my experience with mixing products as i apply to the car.



1) The wettest looking wax's have the worst durability

2) The wettest looking wax's are softer

3) The softer wax's often contain LESS carnauba

4) The wettest products are actually glazes and dont contain any carnauba at all.

5) Glazes often are wipe on wipe off and dont have to dry on the car.



If you look at souveran its a extremely wet wax with poor durability. Its very similar to a glaze. Pinnacle dont mention how much carnauba is in souveran because it contains hardly any. People think carnauba provides wetness but they are wrong, if Pinnacle stated that souveran had only 5% carnauba a lot of people wouldn't buy it because they would think its crap. Of course by adding lots of glossy oils to souveran they get the insane wetness but this also reduces durability. Its all about compromise.



So my idea is to mix a wet glaze with a carnauba wax. You then end up with a product with poor durability but excellent wetness for a fraction of the price of souveran. The higher the percentage of glaze you add the less durability you get but the wetter the product becomes.



Meguiars #7 show car glaze mixed with Natty blue would be an insanely wet combo. Mixed 50/50 it would be a very soft paste or a thick cream that would be very easy to spread. As meguiars #7 doesn't dry it would turn the natty wax into a wipe on wipe off product like souveran. The perfect wax to apply the day before the car show.



You could even buy a 250gram block of pure carnauba wax for $20, 250gram of Natty blue and mix a full 500ml bottle of show car glaze.



You'll then end up with 1kg of the wettest carnuaba wax for under $50!



People here dont have a clue. Mixing a durable wax with a soft wet looking wax will not result in a durable and wet wax. It will now result in a semi-durable semi-wet looking wax. Which you could just buy off the shelf.



Pinnacle souveran has poor durability but excellent wetness.

Poorboys Natty blue has average durability but good wetness.

Meguiars #16 has good durability but average wetness.

Collinite 845 has excellent durability but poor wetness.



Buy the product that suits your needs. There is no point mixing natty blue and Collinite as you'd end up with something similar to #16.. No point mixing souveran and #16 as you'd end up with something similar to Natty blue.



My idea of adding natty blue and a wet glaze would result in a product that doesn't exist. Basically it would sit between souveran and a wet glaze. Nothing on the market fits in this gap, but it would be ideal for showcars. It may only last a week, but it would sit nicely between the durability of a glaze which is a couple days and the durability of souveran which is a couple weeks. The wetness would be worth it.



I might provide samples of my "show car wax" if i end up making it.



Another option would be to mix Collinite 845 with a Klasse Sealant Glaze. Wetness would be better than Klasse by itself but not as good as 845 by itself. Durability would be better than 845 by itself but not as good as Klasse by itself. I suppose it would end up being something like Wolfgang deep gloss sealant.
 
mmmmm TTWAGN you know your stuff



im tight so what cheap wax would go with S100 ?



ive curently got nxt gen 1/2 a bottle and 1/2 a tub of P21S so any ideas ?
 
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