New Menzerna products arrive at CMA

Hi Rufus, welcome to DC. Great to have another Volvo T5 aboard ;)

About the products you just used, please describe how both the glaze and fmj look in color, Which on is yellowish kinda like klasse aio? Also, is the other one white, like a gel? Almost like FP but in white?

Thanks
 
No! :jump

In fact, in a couple of months I'll have the hood and front bumper of my Volvo repainted cause of the rock chips. It'll be sanded till the primary, then leveled and repainted. I'm sure no polymers would resist such a treatment :bigscream

Oh, and welcome to DC! :beer
 
Just make sure they actually sand it down to the primer or at least past the clear. Hope they get the color right...color matching is so tough sometimes especially on a single stage paint. Oh yeah, thanks for the welcome.
 
jgv,

Have you tried the new "FMJ" yet? If so, what's your take on it?
 
Boss... I'm sure I did...Just don't know what it is! :lmfao

That's why I'm looking for someone who can compare with me the products.

I believe that NEW FMJ (there) is my NEW PO85U, and if it is, let me tell you it makes a difference! :cool

Till now I always thought of a greatly prepared surface as one doen with IP and FP, but after using this PO85U (is it FMJ?) it's like if we bring that surface from 2D to 3D! And what a shine!

I've prepared the hood of my car like that and then applied in three diferent sections Z5, EX-P and WG.

Either added anything but slickness, PO85U leaves a squeacky clean surface by it-self.

This shows how important the prep is, and if one uses a clear finish sealant, one that doesn't changes the color properties, the surface condition under it will show!

I hope someone soon tells me if FMJ is either yellow or white at least :rolleyes:
 
Jgv

The glaze is yellowish, almost like a pale bananna color and the FMJ is white. The products create an amazing wet look shine, with a depth that is better then P21S or Soverign. As with all detailing, proper surface preperation in a must.

I only did my drivers side door. I couldn't tell what it really looked like until I brought the car outside. The color depth is clearer and deeper then if the car were topped with 3M IHG or Meg Show Car Glaze.

So far Im very impressed. I cant give you feedback on it's durability. Im not too worried about cross link polimerization and repainting. I really don't think any product lasts too long and can be removed with prepsol and scuff sanding the finish prior to painting.

G Peperioni (sorry if I mispelled) brings up a good point though. Im not certain if the issue wasn't due to cerain silicones in certin products. My friend ownes a body shop, and he cringes when people use tire silicone because It comes off the tires and splashes onto the quarter pannels and can make repainiting difficult if the surface is not properly prepped.

I know back in the early 80's there were issues with silicone waxes and protectans getting on metal and causing proplems with repainting, especially with laquer paints.

I will be posting a picture soon. Boss 429, I definatly think FMJ gives a great finish, carnauba like depth which is clear. Hope this helps.
 
Thank you!

As I thought, my PO73 (the sample I sent Dwayne last year) is the FTG. The FMJ is the PO85U and the FP-II is the PO85RD.

You're right, they provide great looking finishes, far better than the common ones.

:bigups
 
Jgv,

I was wondering if you can buy bulk containers, quarts were your are ???

Are you satisfied with the products ???
 
This are the products used on the assembly line by Mercedes and Porsche in Germany.

Menzernas are Tops!

I'm very satisfied with them, we just don't have the hype you guys have there...My supplier wanted me to buy 6 bottles packs of each :bigscream , then I've found one that sells me by the bottle.

They just don't know how to use them here, they are satisfied with the result of S34 alone :rolleyes: with no extra step.

As I described before, this PO85U (that jelly white so called FMJ) over FP brings 3D to the finish. I topped it with Z1/Z5, PB EX-P and WG sealant. Neither increased more than the slickness of the finish.
 
Thanks JGV,

Your not kidding about hype over here in the US. During the past 18 years Ive heard and seen all the claims by everyone. Teflon coatings, poly coatings that last over 1year, claims of petroleum dissalates destorying finishes etc.

Im glad to see you like these products and know how to use them. I learned how to properly detail cars through my friends father who ownes a body shop. He works on many high end cars Mercedes, BMW, Ferrari, Porsche, Corvette, Volvo, Lamborghini. He is located in NY and does work for many of the local dealers.

He showed me how to properly polish a car using finer and finer polishes to remove swirls and defects until the car looked perfect. New paint jobs were left glazed, but a sealant could be used on cars with cured paint.

I also really like the Malms, Poor Boys, 3M and Megires lines of products. I was really impressed with Menzerna products though. Their products burnish the paint with out the use of oils and fillers. Most defects can be buffed out. FP is less abrasive than most other polishes on the market and adds that extra pop to a dark car.

I stayed with a polymer acrylic product like Klasse because of the protection they offer. Volvo paint is soft and scratches easily. I also live in NY so acid rain can etch the finish. Carnauba topper gives it the POP Im looking for. Since I work alot, I don't have the time to devote to detailing the car, so I wanted something that would give the finish pop and hence the topper. Carnauba alone is not a good option for a daily driver.

I was going to order UPP, EX-EXP or Blackfire, but I read about FMJ and decided to wait and give it a try since I was impressed with the polish. Needless to say Im glad I waited.
 
I'm really confused......


The word out there is the FMJ is a pink stuff, not white :huh

And the glaze is tan :huh


What's going on? Where did you get your products from?

Both CMA and PAC say it's their colors :doh
 
Is PAC going to carry the new Menzerna stuff too?

I got my Menzerna stuff from CMA... But Dwayne...if you've got them...let me know. I definetly up for more FP-II! Great stuff!

Jose...Any idea of the different colors of FMJ? I'll send you some pink one if you'd like to compare.
 
CMA

OT : I saw this reply to Dalton at au****a when he asks about discount, it kinda pissed me off reading that. For me as a potential customer it gives me an impression of arrogance, well that's just my opinion.

We try to be fair and offer the same price to all our customers. We do not give discounts because you drive a certain car or belong to a certain club. We try and treat everyone equally.
Terry Freiberg
Classic Motoring acc
 
What was the original question? But yes...the response sounded a bit harsh... :(

I didn't really have a problem with the price as I got the kit. For me, I needed more FP and and extra 30 bucks for the wash, FP-II and the glaze sounded ok for me.

Otherwise, i've had good experiences with Jan and Terry at CMA. The new Menzerna stuff kicks ass...and I'm glad I got it :)

-Chris
 
His question was "Does CMA give discounts to forum members?"


I'm not a PR expert but a simple 'No,we are sorry, we do not give discount' is sufficient.

yeah Chris, their site do have some good stuff
 
Chris Y. said:
Is PAC going to carry the new Menzerna stuff too?

I got my Menzerna stuff from CMA... But Dwayne...if you've got them...let me know. I definetly up for more FP-II! Great stuff!

Jose...Any idea of the different colors of FMJ? I'll send you some pink one if you'd like to compare.

I have FMJ and all the Menzerna USA products in stock....

Need to put them online, just trying to find time with all these orders to fulfill is a challenge.
 
G_Pepperoni said:
Just make sure they actually sand it down to the primer or at least past the clear. Hope they get the color right...color matching is so tough sometimes especially on a single stage paint. Oh yeah, thanks for the welcome.

Welcome to DC.

You don't have to sand to remove sealants/cross linked polymer. A good chemical cleaner will do it. PPG #440 Wax and Grease remover is made to do that kind of work and all major brands of body shop paint cleaners will have a product to do that work. It's use prior to painting. :welcome :welcome
 
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