New Genesis Coupe...wtf?

Legacy99 said:
Did they have to put Coupe on the dash, like you need a reminder that this is a coupe. The top grille looks like a Batman logo. I do like the side panels and the quad pipes.
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Would you say the same thing if someone had a Turbo ebrake lever in there 911 turbo?? Like they need to be reminded its a turbo 911??



And this rests the case on the Genesis...



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XRL said:
So here's the big question, why buy this car over a used G35 or 350Z? From what I see, the only real feature it has over either is keyless ignition (part of the '06+ G35 tech package), and a rear seat (standard on well, all G35s). Sure there's the whole "brand new" nonsense, and there might be some Hyundai fanboys, or something other than that, but there is no single advantage it has other than price. SO to be, used versions of them will almost HAVE to fall in line with some rather high depreciation.
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IMO for the market they're going after the price difference between the Genesis and the G37/350z is a HUGE factor. Also, it uses the Mitsubishi EVO motor in the 2.0t version which is also HUGE in terms of aftermarket tuning and performance. Those two things alone give it a big advantage over the Nissan and the Infiniti from a tuner/consumer standpoint.



I guess we'll see how well it really does over time and how well the car holds up, but it could be a great value for a lot of people out there. I really like the way it looks personally, would I buy it? Probably not, but I'm not the person they're trying to target with this type of car. My next car will be something a little more "sophisticated".
 
It's actually not the Evo motors from what I've read. Someone did a teardown of it and while it is similar, it's not the same.



I wonder if it'd be possible to do a nav swap in them. Or something akin to that.
 
here's a quote for the april 2009 motor trend issue on page 46...



* FIVE WORTH WAITING FOR *



Hyundai Genesis Coupe

Meet the car that has Ford running scared. And with good reason: In terms of price and performance, the Genesis Coupe goes toe to toe with the 2010 Mustang. We've driven a v-6 Genesis Prototype, and Ford has every reason to be worried. It's a great drive.
 
Of course it's a ripoff, just like the Genesis is a complete copy of the Merc S class. At the end of the day, it's still a ****** hyundai - it's for pretenders.
 
There was a time when Nissan and Honda and Toyota were much in the same way. Nowdays people will drop 60k for an Acura, Infiniti, or Lexus, and the IS-F is damn near as good as the M3. The Maxima is considered one of the best FWD Sport Sedans (or at least almost good enough to not make that phrase an oxymoron).



I'm not a big fan of Hyundai in general, but if these cars were sold as a different brand everyone would be giving them the highest praise ever. Except the V8 Genesis. It is pathetic slow for a "V8 Sport Sedan". When you're slower than the competition's V6 you've got a problem (GS350).
 
The Camaro is a great bargain if you never intend to sit inside of it, and will only look at it from certain angles. It's a great car for your buddy to have. But if you have to actually deal with that attempt at an interior, that's a deal breaker.
 
I have a Dodge (2008) and a Chevrolet (2001) they both run great and do what they are meant to do. The point is, they are "down to earth" car brands as is a Hyundai. People say it's a Hyundai blah, blah, blah. The Genesis is a beautiful car and does resemble the G37. Who cares though. The G37 isn't a unique car, it looks how a sports coupe should look in 2009. The Tiburon is a VERY UNIQUE car that doesn't get the respect it deserves.
 
BigAl3 said:
here's a quote for the april 2009 motor trend issue on page 46...



* FIVE WORTH WAITING FOR *



Hyundai Genesis Coupe

Meet the car that has Ford running scared. And with good reason: In terms of price and performance, the Genesis Coupe goes toe to toe with the 2010 Mustang. We've driven a v-6 Genesis Prototype, and Ford has every reason to be worried. It's a great drive.
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...but Motor Trend states, "In order to get our hands on a Mustang GT in time to meet the deadline for the April issue of Motor Trend, we had to agree not to do a back-to-back comparison with Korea's new colt. Normally, we would've told Ford to take a hike up the Himalayas. But, in the interest of getting the first test numbers on the new Mustang, we acquiesced. For Ford, it's a shame we did."





and...



"In a different vein, if your most important requirement is a sport coupe that accommodates the spouse, kids, and gear and is still a hoot to scoot, the Mustang GT is the superior option. Its back seat is a smidge tighter, but its dynamics are just plain bigger, easily offsetting any deficiencies in light of the Genesis. The Mustang simply offers more speed, more agility, and more fun. Yet, it's more mature and refined. The Genesis is the car you take to the prom; the Mustang is the one you take to the reunion."



Bottom line? Hyundai did good with the Genesis. It's a LOT better than the Tiburon...for sure. But is Ford scared? Hardly. The Z, the Mustang, and the Genesis are all great cars with their own unique qualities and advantages- and disadvantages.



But at the end of the day, the Mustang is an American icon and the Hyundai is, well, a Hyundai. :lol
 
In reading their comparison (which BTW is them going off memory), they say the Mustang "feels bigger". That's awesome, it's always good to "feel" stuff, but personally I'm more interested if it "is" something. Slight difference. And they harp on the Mustang being a muscle car versus a sport compact coupe. WELL DUH. Of course the V6 doesn't sound as muscular as the V8, hell Ford spent a few million getting the engineers to perfect the sound of this new model, that's half of their value proposition. No mention of how the GenCoupe gets better fuel economy, or how the Z beats the Mustang in all the performance aspects... No mention that the GenCoupe offers more features that you can't get on the Mustang, intelligent key/push button start, Brembo brakes, automatic climate control...



Give them time, this is their first "real" attempt at a car. Apparently the GenCoupe has some sort of electrical gremlins (put in by Hyundai -.-) that cut power if you shift it hard. I wonder what sort of times they'll run with that removed.



In any case, I don't think Hyundai really had wanted to compete with the Mustang, I think it was aimed more directly at the G37 market. I think more people will be cross shopping the 2.0T and Mustang V6. If the GenCoupe offered the V8 from the sedan, then maybe they'd have a true Mustang killer.



At the end of the day, a nicer Hyundai is no worse than a nicer Ford, GM, Chrysler, etc. If you're going to talk poorly about it, talk poorly about important things like 1/4 mile times and actual specs, not about how things "feel". And not about false brand image things.
 
XRL said:
Apparently the GenCoupe has some sort of electrical gremlins (put in by Hyundai -.-) that cut power if you shift it hard. I wonder what sort of times they'll run with that removed.
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Edmunds did a follow-up re-test after that incident. Apparently Hyundai is aware of the issue, and is re-flashing the software on all of the coupes, be it already sold, at the dealership, or at the factory.
 
Lumadar said:
The Z, the Mustang, and the Genesis are all great cars with their own unique qualities and advantages- and disadvantages.
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for sure, and that's for the buyer to decide on what he or she likes. however, the new mustang (there may be one or two others) is just about the only ford i like from the exterior styling standpoint...
 
I give Hyundai credit for trying to better themselves and compete with the market of today. The past cars wasn't all great, and i never owned one. If i was to let go of my Grand Prix? would i consider a Genesis? don't know, but i would look into it more.
 
BigAl3 said:
for sure, and that's for the buyer to decide on what he or she likes. however, the new mustang (there may be one or two others) is just about the only ford i like from the exterior styling standpoint...
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Different strokes for different folks. There isn't a single Hyundai I like styling wise- the only Nissan I like is the Z, and Toyota/Honda just flat out put me to sleep. :doh





I can't imagine a more stylish car in its class than the new Fusion though :nervous:



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The new 2011 Focus sure will be a head turner



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The F150 is pretty sweet IMO, just not a fan of the Honda-style chrome tails...



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Oh well, guess not everyone has to see the beauty behind the blue oval that I do :lol
 
perhaps i can clear alot of things up, as i work at a hyundai dealership (in parts)



The pictures posted in the beginning of the thread are from Korea. The coupe has been out in Korea for quite some time now, and the aftermarket companies have really gotten ahold of it over there. Alot of those little badges and grilles are all aftermarket.



What hyundai is doing is spinning of their genesis sedan. The model is called the coupe. which is why there is badging thats says...coupe. However, someone commented on that little badge by the radio that said coupe, that is not on the USDM model.



I see alot of people saying they are ripping off the g37, but if you really take a look at it, the design is pretty different. The quarter panel has a completely different line, the front end has a totally different shape, same goes for the headlights and grilles in terms of size and placement.



The coupe is also much cheaper than the g37. A top of the line v6 model is still cheaper than a base g37. And for that you get:



19" wheels

brembo package

Torsen LSD (not a viscous like in the infiniti)

two tone leather

3.8L engine that makes 306bhp (on regular fuel, the infiniti takes premium)



There is no nav option, but according to the recent coupe training I had, it is in development.



Before i started to work at my dealership, i thought very similar to how alot of you guys think. I thought all hyundais were crap. In reality, the new hyundais are much higher quality, are extremely reliable, and are solid build. Nothing to like how they were in the 80s and 90s. The designs have also greatly been stepped up.



I can say hyundais are extremely reliable because i work in parts. My dealership does little to no heavyline work (engiens and transmissions) its mostly service and maintenance.



Hyundai is also one of the only companies not hurting right now. The sedan is selling great, and the coupe is going to do just as well because your getting great performance for the money.



Is the infiniti nicer? yes. Is it 10-15k nicer? Is it worth spending that extra couple thousand for the base G just for the sake of badge snobbery?
 
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